On 12/3/2014 9:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:


So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.



I've never thought that giving consideration to other points of view is
going to the "dark" side.

There's always something to be learned ... even if it's simply what
makes people think the way they do. Often it simply confirms more
firmly what your current views are.




I always consider all points of view. I make judgements based on what
makes sense. That's what separates my thinking from the Harry Krause
mindset.

On 12/3/14 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


Well played.

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite



I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.

Thank you for your continued input.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:57:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite



I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.

Thank you for your continued input.


Munje op sumnida!
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

Guess he didn't get to the ethics section of the manual yet...

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

On 12/3/2014 1:03 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

Guess he didn't get to the ethics section of the manual yet...



For a guy who had little or no influence on my project, you sure are
doing the most complaining about it.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:05:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

The unwashed? You walk among the heartless.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:54:25 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:05:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

The unwashed? You walk among the heartless.

That's what I meant, Luddite.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)