Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 4:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:12:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a
compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold, but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.

So, as far as I can tell, your views remain the same as when you were
"walking on the other side" with Wayne's "unwashed."


Pretty much. I just argued them more and harder.
Still doesn't make me a "liberal" politically.

What I find interesting (and a little disturbing) is it seems one must
toe a party line in order not to be branded by one side or the other.
I've been an Independent politically for many years and have voted both
Republican and Democratic depending on who I think will do the best job.

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Why are you such an obstreperous asshole?

obstreperous! Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 5:29 PM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 4:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:12:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the
tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be
received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and
interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other
words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others
who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not
disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults
begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright
denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations
in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true
liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a
die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving
consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun
control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional,
conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as
"liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in
you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about
gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care
about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background
checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting
stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no
indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a
compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold,
but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy
was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.

So, as far as I can tell, your views remain the same as when you were
"walking on the other side" with Wayne's "unwashed."


Pretty much. I just argued them more and harder.
Still doesn't make me a "liberal" politically.

What I find interesting (and a little disturbing) is it seems one must
toe a party line in order not to be branded by one side or the other.
I've been an Independent politically for many years and have voted
both
Republican and Democratic depending on who I think will do the best
job.

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Why are you such an obstreperous asshole?

obstreperous! Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

harry had to think of something, "asshat" was already taken. :)

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:29:36 -0500, Let it snowe
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 4:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:12:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a
compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold, but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.

So, as far as I can tell, your views remain the same as when you were
"walking on the other side" with Wayne's "unwashed."


Pretty much. I just argued them more and harder.
Still doesn't make me a "liberal" politically.

What I find interesting (and a little disturbing) is it seems one must
toe a party line in order not to be branded by one side or the other.
I've been an Independent politically for many years and have voted both
Republican and Democratic depending on who I think will do the best job.

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Why are you such an obstreperous asshole?

obstreperous! Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

I'm sure it's complimentary as hell. Toad wouldn't say anything bad
about me.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 5:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 5:29 PM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 4:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:12:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the
tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be
received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and
interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other
words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others
who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not
disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults
begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright
denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations
in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true
liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a
die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving
consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun
control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional,
conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as
"liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in
you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about
gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care
about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background
checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting
stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no
indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a
compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold,
but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy
was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.

So, as far as I can tell, your views remain the same as when you
were
"walking on the other side" with Wayne's "unwashed."


Pretty much. I just argued them more and harder.
Still doesn't make me a "liberal" politically.

What I find interesting (and a little disturbing) is it seems one
must
toe a party line in order not to be branded by one side or the
other.
I've been an Independent politically for many years and have voted
both
Republican and Democratic depending on who I think will do the best
job.

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Why are you such an obstreperous asshole?

obstreperous! Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

harry had to think of something, "asshat" was already taken. :)


Yup...you two are 7th graders.

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 5:34 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


I'm sure it's complimentary as hell. Toad wouldn't say anything bad
about me.
--

I know your wife is a nice person. You are not.


--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

Thank you.
 

On 3 Dec 2014 21:52:49 GMT, F*O*A*D wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:12:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:56 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a

compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold, but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.

So, as far as I can tell, your views remain the same as when you were
"walking on the other side" with Wayne's "unwashed."


Pretty much. I just argued them more and harder.
Still doesn't make me a "liberal" politically.

What I find interesting (and a little disturbing) is it seems one must
toe a party line in order not to be branded by one side or the other.
I've been an Independent politically for many years and have voted both
Republican and Democratic depending on who I think will do the best job.

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Why are you such an obstreperous asshole?

He can't help himself. Consider it a projection of his own weakness.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:54:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:21:08 -0800, jps wrote:

But to some if I happen to favor background checks or if I happen to
have some empathy for the social status of some minorities, I am
automatically branded a raging liberal. Cracks me up.


Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.

===

I'm a bit of a tree hugger myself but I *do* have a sense of humor.
You might be able to find one on sale this week.

Yes, I'll check among my unwashed brethren to see if I can find one.

Being an expert in humor, do you have time to use it between your
lengthy bouts of righteous judgment?

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:27:36 -0500, Let it snowe
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 4:48 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.
Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

JPS is still ****ed that Harry shot Stumpy.

Which one of the idiots are you again? Among the constant name
changers to avoid bozo bins?

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:23:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 4:14 PM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 2:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received
and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and
interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin
that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in
rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)



Do you play devils advocate with her too?


One must do what one must do to survive.

I think it's more like "people need something to do."

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 6:19 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:27:36 -0500, Let it snowe
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 4:48 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
Doesn't take much. I'm only a bleeding heart tree hugger in rec.boats.

You'll be branded a raging liberal for having an open mind. Unallowed.
Speaking of drama queens.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

JPS is still ****ed that Harry shot Stumpy.

Which one of the idiots are you again? Among the constant name
changers to avoid bozo bins?


Unfortunately, the right-wing village here is full of idiots whose
brains stopped developing in the 7th grade, and among them is Snowflake,
who used to call himself FlaJim, among many other handles.
He never got out of my bozo bin, even with his handle change.

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.