Thank you.
 

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

Thank you.
 

Then there's my who doesn't Takeuchi of a side on anything.

Hey Rick- you gonna use your findings here for a research paper? Lol!

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:10 AM, Tim wrote:
Then there's my who doesn't Takeuchi of a side on anything.

Hey Rick- you gonna use your findings here for a research paper? Lol!


Maybe in a very general way. I am bored so I am taking a course in
Group Dynamics. Interesting stuff.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.

Thank you.
 

"Then there's me who doesn't take much of a side..."

Gotta love tapping on an iPhone. Lol!

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:41 AM, Tim wrote:
"Then there's me who doesn't take much of a side..."

Gotta love tapping on an iPhone. Lol!


What are you talking about Tim?

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:


So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.



I've never thought that giving consideration to other points of view is
going to the "dark" side.

There's always something to be learned ... even if it's simply what
makes people think the way they do. Often it simply confirms more
firmly what your current views are.

Thank you.
 

Scott I'm talking about my gross mishandling an iPhone key pad in my original post to Richard. Proofreading isn't my strong suit

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:41 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Everyone has minor flaws in their personalities, even you. Live with it.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:


So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.



I've never thought that giving consideration to other points of view is
going to the "dark" side.

There's always something to be learned ... even if it's simply what
makes people think the way they do. Often it simply confirms more
firmly what your current views are.




I always consider all points of view. I make judgements based on what
makes sense. That's what separates my thinking from the Harry Krause
mindset.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:41 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:


So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...


Scott, I hate to burst your bubble but out of necessity I had to
discount most of what you have to say. I was interested in the reaction
of mentally healthy people.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:49 AM, Tim wrote:
Scott I'm talking about my gross mishandling an iPhone key pad in my original post to Richard. Proofreading isn't my strong suit


Oh, funny how these Iphones can't do usenet...

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 10:00 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:41 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received
and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and
interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin
that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in
rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Everyone has minor flaws in their personalities, even you. Live with it.

I still don't "use" my friends for my own personal folly or profit...
either way, I was one of the first targets in his selfish play and it
actyally hit me at a couple times this summer when I just didn't need it
so it caused me personal pain and anxiety... it was a harryesque thing
to do. It was also very selfish...

Thank you.
 

Luddite says..

" Scott, I hate to burst your bubble but out of necessity I had to
discount most of what you have to say. *I was interested in the reaction
of mentally healthy people. "


SNERK!

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 10:18 AM, True North wrote:
Luddite says..

" Scott, I hate to burst your bubble but out of necessity I had to
discount most of what you have to say. I was interested in the reaction
of mentally healthy people. "

Bull**** dick, you came right after me... if it wasn't for your project
then it was just because you enjoy being a bully. Either way, you have
been successful at letting folks here know exactly where you stand on
loyalty and respect for folks you have been dealing with for over a
decade.... no prob dick, I already knew...


SNERK!

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 10:32 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:18 AM, True North wrote:
Luddite says..

" Scott, I hate to burst your bubble but out of necessity I had to
discount most of what you have to say. I was interested in the reaction
of mentally healthy people. "

Bull**** dick, you came right after me... if it wasn't for your project
then it was just because you enjoy being a bully. Either way, you have
been successful at letting folks here know exactly where you stand on
loyalty and respect for folks you have been dealing with for over a
decade.... no prob dick, I already knew...



Actually, most mentally healthy people would think you are insane. There
are some here on the far right who are on the edge and don't think
you've gone over it, and some others on the right who like to encourage
you because you will post nuttiness they won't but would like to...

Basically, you're sort of like a pet skunk.


--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


Well played. :)

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 10:32 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:18 AM, True North wrote:
Luddite says..

" Scott, I hate to burst your bubble but out of necessity I had to
discount most of what you have to say. I was interested in the reaction
of mentally healthy people. "

Bull**** dick, you came right after me... if it wasn't for your project
then it was just because you enjoy being a bully. Either way, you have
been successful at letting folks here know exactly where you stand on
loyalty and respect for folks you have been dealing with for over a
decade.... no prob dick, I already knew...


SNERK!




Bull**** yourself. Any comments I've made to you have been in response
to either some bizarre conspiracy theory you have promoted or a personal
attack initiated by you, usually populated with "**** you" and "asshole"
because you don't like a view on something I posted. You also don't
like the fact that I can converse with people like Harry without going
bonkers, making it a newsgroup issue. It's really none of your business.

You're just a hot head who also exhibits paranoid tendencies. The fact
that you seem to think you are being singled out is another
demonstration of that tendency. You are not that important to me.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 11:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
I can converse with people like Harry without going bonkers
How do you manage that?

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 9:15 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:00 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:41 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks
for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received
and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and
interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin
that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright
denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in
rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals
who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Everyone has minor flaws in their personalities, even you. Live with it.

I still don't "use" my friends for my own personal folly or profit...
either way, I was one of the first targets in his selfish play and it
actyally hit me at a couple times this summer when I just didn't need it
so it caused me personal pain and anxiety... it was a harryesque thing
to do. It was also very selfish...

Did I miss something or are you suggesting that things said on a
newsgroup caused you "personal pain and anxiety". If that's what is
happening you might stop using newsgroups and build a sandbox.
I probably didn't follow the thread properly.
Mikek

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:41:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Who said anything about 'friends'?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite



I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.

Thank you for your continued input.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 12:48 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:41:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Who said anything about 'friends'?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)


Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

Guess he didn't get to the ethics section of the manual yet... :)

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:57:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite



I hope you include yourself in the crowd that quickly turns. Your
snide comments and subtle name-calling surely inspired some of the
'turning' - not the disagreement over the topic under discussion.
Siding with Krause's personal attacks and name-calling most likely had
an affect on the 'turning' also.

In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.

Thank you for your continued input.


Munje op sumnida!
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 1:03 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/3/2014 12:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


In other words, the results of your 'analysis' were greatly influenced
by your behavior, not the side you chose for the topic in question.
--

Guess he didn't get to the ethics section of the manual yet... :)



For a guy who had little or no influence on my project, you sure are
doing the most complaining about it.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:02:17 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 12:48 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:41:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Who said anything about 'friends'?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)


Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway.

There is no one here who should have enough control over you to
disrupt your serenity.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/14 1:02 PM, KC wrote:

Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway.

Your insanity is getting in the way of your serenity.

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 1:12 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:02:17 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 12:48 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:41:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/3/2014 9:35 AM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/3/2014 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal"
thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite

So you haven't gone to the dark side. That's a relief.


He is an arrogant ****. He started with the name calling and wrong
rubbing for his own personal muse.... at our expense. He is full of ****
above making excuses for his behavior... he trolled, called names, and
then took it from there. It's a flawed study, done by a spoiled kid...
and really the above is just a typical over verbose excuse for his
behavior lately. Let him tell you whatever, he was just being an asshole
at our expense after being your "friend" for over a decade...

Who said anything about 'friends'?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)


Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway.

There is no one here who should have enough control over you to
disrupt your serenity.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)


My mistake.... :)

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:05:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

The unwashed? You walk among the heartless.

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

Thank you.
 

KC
- show quoted text -
" Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway. "


Good Lord.........stop being such a drama queen.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care about.

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:54:25 -0800, jps wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:05:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

===

Dangerous stuff.

I hope you had all of your shots first and took reasonable precautions
while walking among the unwashed.

Welcome back and hope you're feeling better.

The unwashed? You walk among the heartless.

That's what I meant, Luddite.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:59:44 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

KC
- show quoted text -
" Not gonna' get tied up with semantics. Fact is being mocked and
dismissed by folks you thought were being responsible participants and
folks you generally look at as good honest folks, did bother me. Turns
out it was for folly, so it doesn't matter now anyway. "


Good Lord.........stop being such a drama queen.

Didn't you just post a whole song to show what a drama queen you can
be?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Thank you.
 

On 12/3/2014 3:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:55:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/3/2014 2:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:01:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It has been very interesting walking on the left side of the tracks for
a while to observe reactions in the group.

I wanted to see how expressions of unpopular views would be received and
how quickly the crowd would turn on someone who displayed them.
I tried to present them as alternate ways of looking at and interpreting
issues and not trying to establish them as fact. In other words,
viewing and interpreting issues through the eyes of others who don't
necessarily reflect your own views.

From gun control issues to the Ferguson event I was not disappointed.
The crowd quickly turns. In some cases the derogatory insults begin that
have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. Outright denial of
references that offer opposing thoughts and interpretations in rebuttal.

Granted, it was pretty much to be expected. The only true liberals who
post here are Harry and JPS, IMO. BOA doesn't strike me as a die-hard
liberal.

Surprisingly, the only one who came close to giving consideration to a
more "lefty" view was John H. and that was related to gun control
issues. The rest pretty much stuck to the traditional, conservative
mindset that immediately rejects anything considered as "liberal" thinking.

Thank you all for your participation,

Luddite


I thought maybe your wife had managed to coax out the best in you.
Sorry to hear it was a ruse.



My wife is more to the "right" than I am. Makes for interesting
discussions sometimes. :-)

So, given that it was sport that drove you to your course, I think
it's only fair that you come clean with your true thoughts about gun
control and Feguson.

You do not yet have clean hands, if that's something you care about.



Ok. Gun laws? I remain as stated. I am in favor of background checks
and gun registration for all transfers, FFL or private.

Ferguson? Jury is still out in my mind. Too many conflicting stories.
I can't get the contractor guy video and testimony out of my head.

Now we have another controversial call: GH decision for no indictment
in the Garner choke hold case. The video of it certainly is a
compelling argument that one of the cops was using a banned hold, but I
know very few details of this event. My understanding is the guy was
stopped because he was selling unpackaged cigarettes or something.