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Thank you, Richard!!!
On 11/14/2014 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2014 11:41 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:03:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/14/14 10:59 AM, wrote: That reading thing again. I was pointing out that there were already laws that would have prevented the CNN crew from legally purchasing the guns they bought and they still bought them. The thing that ****ed Richard off was when I pointed out that they had to drive over 600 miles, visit 5 gun shows just to find 3 illegal sellers. If you know anything about TV at all you know they had hours of footage of people following the law that ended up on the cutting room floor to get the "70 seconds" they used. Perfectly legal in "gun show loophole states" like Virginia for individuals to sell their regulated firearms to someone without an instant check. I ask again, why did CNN go to Tennessee, North Carolina and South Carolina then? Were they saying there are no gun shows in Georgia or are they not saying that those sellers wanted them to walk over to the instant check booth first? That is the problem with TV, you only see what the producer wants you to see. Maybe they decided to pick three nearby states within reasonable driving distance and see how each compared in terms of easy of buying. I just watched it again to get their story as accurate as I can. They actually went to shows in Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina. (They did not visit North Carolina) They purchased twice in Tennessee and once in South Carolina for a total of four (4) guns. One Tennessee purchase was for two (2) Glocks. They also reported that they were asked for ID's three times, once in each of the states visited. If you actually watch and listen to the recorded conversations, it's hard to conceive that this whole thing was scripted. That is, of course, unless you think everyone they talked to are actors, hired to play a part. If you believe that, more power to you. What if somebody beleives something between the two.... is there no other opinions but yours, and "it's all fake"? |
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Thank you, Richard!!!
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 00:28:33 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:05:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:41 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:03:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/14/14 10:59 AM, wrote: That reading thing again. I was pointing out that there were already laws that would have prevented the CNN crew from legally purchasing the guns they bought and they still bought them. The thing that ****ed Richard off was when I pointed out that they had to drive over 600 miles, visit 5 gun shows just to find 3 illegal sellers. If you know anything about TV at all you know they had hours of footage of people following the law that ended up on the cutting room floor to get the "70 seconds" they used. Perfectly legal in "gun show loophole states" like Virginia for individuals to sell their regulated firearms to someone without an instant check. I ask again, why did CNN go to Tennessee, North Carolina and South Carolina then? Were they saying there are no gun shows in Georgia or are they not saying that those sellers wanted them to walk over to the instant check booth first? That is the problem with TV, you only see what the producer wants you to see. Maybe they decided to pick three nearby states within reasonable driving distance and see how each compared in terms of easy of buying. Yeah a 600 mile road trip is reasonable when there is a gun show in Atlanta just about every weekend. There are 6 this month within an hour's drive. Why did they have to make that grand loop if this problem is so pervasive? I just watched it again to get their story as accurate as I can. They actually went to shows in Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina. (They did not visit North Carolina) They showed they went to North Carolina on the map and they did not tell us about the other 2 shows they attended. (they said a total of 5) I do not think it unreasonable to think they stopped off at a show in North Carolina. So what if they didn't? They purchased twice in Tennessee and once in South Carolina for a total of four (4) guns. One Tennessee purchase was for two (2) Glocks. They also reported that they were asked for ID's three times, once in each of the states visited. I was going on what they showed tape of. So what? Are you really going to say they only talked to SIX sellers in 2 days at 5 shows? That is still ludicrous If you actually watch and listen to the recorded conversations, it's hard to conceive that this whole thing was scripted. The narration is clearly scripted and probably recorded several times until they got it just the way they wanted it. Most of the "facts" are in the narration with short clips of actual conversation, taken largely out of context. That is, of course, unless you think everyone they talked to are actors, hired to play a part. If you believe that, more power to you. Just look at what you actually saw. You had some B roll from a guy with a hidden camera walking around a gun show and the narrator talking over the shot. He sets up a sound bite. The "seller" says a sentence or two, then the narrator takes over again and tells you what you are supposed to take away from that. There is no context, you don't know what was said before or after the little clip. You only have what the narrator says happened. Well said. And...the purpose of the show was to sway opinion, as it definitely did in Luddite's case. |
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