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On 11/14/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2014 11:41 AM, KC wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/14/14 11:05 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 06:40:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I think you missed the point of Luddite's posit entirely. The point is that firearms are being sold at gun shows sans even the instant background checks, especially but not only by individuals who are not FFLs. It has been demonstrated many times that Virginia, in particular, a "gunshow loophole state," has numerous individuals selling firearms to other individuals at gunshows and at other venues without bothering with any background checks. In another of his posts, he had a statistic that said less than 1% of the guns used in crimes came from gun shows. I don't know for a fact but I suspect that 1% number refers to *reported* gun show sales by a FFL. It's the only way the data could have been documented. I don't think it includes "no questions asked" private sales at gun shows. How could it if there are no records? Well, if that's the case then "no questions asked" in the context of this discussion is only a hypothetical too? sigh If you are referring to the CNN documentary, they showed and reported that the sellers didn't even ask the buyer's name let alone any ID. You can believe that or not believe it, but that's what they reported. Probably easier for you to just declare the report as being a made-up hoax like Greg and it will satisfy you. Non responsive.. let me try again.. has anybody here experienced personally the type of activity the CNN report "found". Is this prevalent or can we assume CNN had to dig a little to get someone to do it? Just trying to get by the this or that extremes you leftys are throwing out here... suggesting that if someone doesn't see it your way, they must be as far from your opinion as possible.. I know that makes it easier to justify dismissing their point of view or coming to the middle, but it doesn't change anything... |
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On 11/14/2014 1:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/14/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:41 AM, KC wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/14/14 11:05 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 06:40:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I think you missed the point of Luddite's posit entirely. The point is that firearms are being sold at gun shows sans even the instant background checks, especially but not only by individuals who are not FFLs. It has been demonstrated many times that Virginia, in particular, a "gunshow loophole state," has numerous individuals selling firearms to other individuals at gunshows and at other venues without bothering with any background checks. In another of his posts, he had a statistic that said less than 1% of the guns used in crimes came from gun shows. I don't know for a fact but I suspect that 1% number refers to *reported* gun show sales by a FFL. It's the only way the data could have been documented. I don't think it includes "no questions asked" private sales at gun shows. How could it if there are no records? Well, if that's the case then "no questions asked" in the context of this discussion is only a hypothetical too? sigh If you are referring to the CNN documentary, they showed and reported that the sellers didn't even ask the buyer's name let alone any ID. You can believe that or not believe it, but that's what they reported. Probably easier for you to just declare the report as being a made-up hoax like Greg and it will satisfy you. Non responsive.. let me try again.. has anybody here experienced personally the type of activity the CNN report "found". Is this prevalent or can we assume CNN had to dig a little to get someone to do it? Just trying to get by the this or that extremes you leftys are throwing out here... suggesting that if someone doesn't see it your way, they must be as far from your opinion as possible.. I know that makes it easier to justify dismissing their point of view or coming to the middle, but it doesn't change anything... I don't buy guns illegally ... personally. |
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On 11/14/2014 2:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2014 1:52 PM, KC wrote: On 11/14/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:41 AM, KC wrote: On 11/14/2014 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/14/14 11:05 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 06:40:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I think you missed the point of Luddite's posit entirely. The point is that firearms are being sold at gun shows sans even the instant background checks, especially but not only by individuals who are not FFLs. It has been demonstrated many times that Virginia, in particular, a "gunshow loophole state," has numerous individuals selling firearms to other individuals at gunshows and at other venues without bothering with any background checks. In another of his posts, he had a statistic that said less than 1% of the guns used in crimes came from gun shows. I don't know for a fact but I suspect that 1% number refers to *reported* gun show sales by a FFL. It's the only way the data could have been documented. I don't think it includes "no questions asked" private sales at gun shows. How could it if there are no records? Well, if that's the case then "no questions asked" in the context of this discussion is only a hypothetical too? sigh If you are referring to the CNN documentary, they showed and reported that the sellers didn't even ask the buyer's name let alone any ID. You can believe that or not believe it, but that's what they reported. Probably easier for you to just declare the report as being a made-up hoax like Greg and it will satisfy you. Non responsive.. let me try again.. has anybody here experienced personally the type of activity the CNN report "found". Is this prevalent or can we assume CNN had to dig a little to get someone to do it? Just trying to get by the this or that extremes you leftys are throwing out here... suggesting that if someone doesn't see it your way, they must be as far from your opinion as possible.. I know that makes it easier to justify dismissing their point of view or coming to the middle, but it doesn't change anything... I don't buy guns illegally ... personally. Ok you haven't seen this type of activity? Ok, that is a start, anybody else see any of this activity at gun shows? |
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