On 11/14/14 11:41 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:03:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/14/14 10:59 AM, wrote:


That reading thing again. I was pointing out that there were already
laws that would have prevented the CNN crew from legally purchasing
the guns they bought and they still bought them. The thing that ****ed
Richard off was when I pointed out that they had to drive over 600
miles, visit 5 gun shows just to find 3 illegal sellers.
If you know anything about TV at all you know they had hours of
footage of people following the law that ended up on the cutting room
floor to get the "70 seconds" they used.



Perfectly legal in "gun show loophole states" like Virginia for
individuals to sell their regulated firearms to someone without
an instant check.

I ask again, why did CNN go to Tennessee, North Carolina and South
Carolina then? Were they saying there are no gun shows in Georgia or
are they not saying that those sellers wanted them to walk over to the
instant check booth first?

That is the problem with TV, you only see what the producer wants you
to see.


I don't know why they went there, and neither do you. The point is that
you can buy firearms at gunshows without a background check. Period. You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.

On 11/14/14 7:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.


What's the matter, Wayne? Will universal registration of firearms
interfere with your Carib gun running business?

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/14/2014 7:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.



You can add me to your "weenie" file because I agree with him.

BTW, it's not the Federal Government you need to worry about so much.
State governments can and do create and enforce their own gun laws.

If everyone remains unwilling to give a bit, Florida may end up
like Massachusetts.

That's why I am an advocate of uniform and standardized laws that
everyone can live with.

BTW ... state laws for guns on board vary also. Wouldn't it be nice if
they were all the same when you travel?

On 11/14/2014 8:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2014 7:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.



You can add me to your "weenie" file because I agree with him.

BTW, it's not the Federal Government you need to worry about so much.
State governments can and do create and enforce their own gun laws.

If everyone remains unwilling to give a bit, Florida may end up
like Massachusetts.

That's why I am an advocate of uniform and standardized laws that
everyone can live with.

BTW ... state laws for guns on board vary also. Wouldn't it be nice if
they were all the same when you travel?

There are a lot of good reasons for having State lines, and State laws..
unless you believe in one central power base. Apparently (to me anyway)
the framers didn't want that.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:33:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2014 7:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.



You can add me to your "weenie" file because I agree with him.


===
I've never regarded you as a weenie but if you want to be one, I can't
stop you.

BTW, it's not the Federal Government you need to worry about so much.
State governments can and do create and enforce their own gun laws.

If everyone remains unwilling to give a bit, Florida may end up
like Massachusetts.


===
That is extremely unlikely. There are a lot of people in Florida who
would advocate seceding from the US before they'd let that happen. Let
me understand this however. As a resident of a state with highly
restrictive gun laws, some of which seem to make little or no sense,
you think it is your duty to export that nonsense to other states
where sanity still prevails?

That's why I am an advocate of uniform and standardized laws that
everyone can live with.

BTW ... state laws for guns on board vary also. Wouldn't it be nice if
they were all the same when you travel?

===
I've never felt the need to carry a gun on the boat in this country.
If I did feel the need, I could always carry a long gun. Most likely
I'd just stop cruising however.

On 11/15/2014 7:27 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
That is extremely unlikely. There are a lot of people in Florida who
would advocate seceding from the US before they'd let that happen. Let
me understand this however. As a resident of a state with highly
restrictive gun laws, some of which seem to make little or no sense,
you think it is your duty to export that nonsense to other states
where sanity still prevails?

You can't even clean up your property in that state without special
permissions.

On 11/15/2014 7:27 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:33:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2014 7:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:44:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You
should not be able to buy or sell or gift a firearm without paperwork
recording the giver, seller and buyer.

===

That's your opinion because it is the party line of all weenies just
like you.



You can add me to your "weenie" file because I agree with him.


===
I've never regarded you as a weenie but if you want to be one, I can't
stop you.

BTW, it's not the Federal Government you need to worry about so much.
State governments can and do create and enforce their own gun laws.

If everyone remains unwilling to give a bit, Florida may end up
like Massachusetts.


===
That is extremely unlikely. There are a lot of people in Florida who
would advocate seceding from the US before they'd let that happen. Let
me understand this however. As a resident of a state with highly
restrictive gun laws, some of which seem to make little or no sense,
you think it is your duty to export that nonsense to other states
where sanity still prevails?

That's why I am an advocate of uniform and standardized laws that
everyone can live with.

BTW ... state laws for guns on board vary also. Wouldn't it be nice if
they were all the same when you travel?

===
I've never felt the need to carry a gun on the boat in this country.
If I did feel the need, I could always carry a long gun. Most likely
I'd just stop cruising however.



Wayne, there is no question that Massachusetts has gone overboard in
some of it's gun control measures IMO. The worst in my mind is the
convoluted and mysterious way in which the types and models of handguns
are "approved" for sale in the state. It's a case of government
over-reaching .... or a case of outright bribery and corruption. I am
not sure which.

Although it doesn't really affect what I do I think limits on magazine
sizes doesn't make a firearm any safer nor does a requirement for a 10lb
trigger pull. IMO, those are "real good" laws that don't really add to
any safety issues.


The only gun control regulations that make sense to me a

A gun handling and safety course requirement that includes an overview
of federal, state and local laws governing the use of firearms and:

A background check for a license and an instant background
check when making gun purchases, and:

The registration of purchased firearms tying it's serial number
to the original and subsequent owners.

I'd love to see reciprocal recognition of licenses or permits throughout
all the states. It may be possible someday if all
the states had the minimum requirements of background checks and
registration.

I don't see any of those requirements as being unreasonable or an
infringement on the right to own a firearm. I see them as being
responsible gun ownership.

On 11/15/2014 8:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Although it doesn't really affect what I do I think limits on magazine
sizes doesn't make a firearm any safer nor does a requirement for a 10lb
trigger pull. IMO, those are "real good" laws that don't really add to
any safety issues.

Meant to type "feel good" not "real good". Can't even blame that on
a spell checker. :-)

In article ,
says...

I've never regarded you as a weenie but if you want to be one, I
can't stop you.



Wayne, there is no question that Massachusetts has gone overboard in
some of it's gun control measures IMO. The worst in my mind is the
convoluted and mysterious way in which the types and models of handguns
are "approved" for sale in the state. It's a case of government
over-reaching .... or a case of outright bribery and corruption. I am
not sure which.

Although it doesn't really affect what I do I think limits on magazine
sizes doesn't make a firearm any safer nor does a requirement for a 10lb
trigger pull. IMO, those are "real good" laws that don't really add to
any safety issues.


The only gun control regulations that make sense to me a

A gun handling and safety course requirement that includes an overview
of federal, state and local laws governing the use of firearms and:

A background check for a license and an instant background
check when making gun purchases, and:

The registration of purchased firearms tying it's serial number
to the original and subsequent owners.

I'd love to see reciprocal recognition of licenses or permits throughout
all the states. It may be possible someday if all
the states had the minimum requirements of background checks and
registration.

I don't see any of those requirements as being unreasonable or an
infringement on the right to own a firearm. I see them as being
responsible gun ownership.

The guy calls you a weenie, and you're talking to him?
Give it up. You'll find no joy here.