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On 11/5/14 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2014 11:12 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:44:58 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:35:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/5/2014 8:22 AM, KC wrote: On 11/5/2014 12:54 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:00:41 -0500, KC wrote: I doubt it... Could be that they fudged the circumstances or edited though. CNN and even more MSNBC have been caught several times doing things like that.. I am not saying this story is fudged, but it's very possible if nobody ever really got busted. I think that if this was a real news story, they would have questioned the sellers after the sale. I wonder why they didn't. By fuzzing the faces and not addressing it any further, even to the point of saying the seller refused an interview, they make this look pretty hokey. I agree that if this really happened the way they presented it, laws were broken. My first question is where does the producer live? They attempted to buy guns in a couple of states and the transactions on tape were in Tennessee. I bet the producer lives in Georgia. (CNN is based in Atlanta) When BATF starts rounding up the criminals, they have to start with the guy who taped his crime. Well, can we for the purpose of this discussion view this "report" as a hypothetical but not proven to be real yet? Of course that kills the perspective of those in the discussion riding on this as "evidence"... The role of journalism in a report like this isn't to effect the arrest or apprehension of those breaking the law. It is to expose the law breaking. Journalists enjoy a privilege called "confidentiality of sources" and are not required to identify the people in the report. That's why their images are blurred. If this is as common as depicted, why has BATF not put a few undercover folks in there and sent some sellers to jail? That would surely make the news. Might even help the problem of too many guns out there. These people would rather have the issue than an arrest. If they followed through and had these people arrested they would not be able to say it was still going on. They had to scour gun shows in several states before they found a guy who would sell then guns in illegal sale. Where are all the people who said "no way"? You obviously didn't pay much attention to the report or video. no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote many hits for virginia...here is one: http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6 -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
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On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote many hits for virginia...here is one: http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6 I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade center" too but that does not make it true. The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal? Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns came from a gun show. CNN. Not MSNBC. Let's keep the stories straight. |
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On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote many hits for virginia...here is one: http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6 I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade center" too but that does not make it true. The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal? Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns came from a gun show. Oh. If so, then they must be ok. |
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:44:07 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:09:57 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote many hits for virginia...here is one: http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6 I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade center" too but that does not make it true. The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal? Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns came from a gun show. Oh. If so, then they must be ok. Certainly not the problem the hype would have us believe. Seven tenths of one percent? That is like the number of hunters who get shot by their dog. That was funny!! |
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:53:07 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 15:40:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/5/2014 1:14 PM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:27:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: You obviously didn't pay much attention to the report or video. OK I am watching it now. The gun show where they "scored" was in Tennessee violating federal law, then they went to 2 more states plus Georgia where they started. I was wrong, they had 4 counts each of violating 3 sections of the federal law I posted (not 3) I missed South Carolina where they did get refused on camera along with acknowledging that they were refused a few other times but that is not what they hit hard on in the piece. I will say again, they would not have to walk far from the Atlanta studio to buy crack and there is probably a pusher right in the building. Does that say crack is not illegal enough? Are we watching the same video? If so, as a self proclaimed legal scholar, maybe you should call the BATF and demand arrest and prosecution. Maybe there's a reward in it for you. BATF would tell me they don't really care about small time gun running like this. If these guys had 1000 guns in a truck they might care. Holder would have them transferred to Mexico. |
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