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On 11/5/2014 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:44:58 -0500, Poco Loco
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:35:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
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On 11/5/2014 8:22 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/5/2014 12:54 AM,
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:00:41 -0500, KC wrote:




I doubt it... Could be that they fudged the circumstances or edited
though. CNN and even more MSNBC have been caught several times doing
things like that.. I am not saying this story is fudged, but it's very
possible if nobody ever really got busted.

I think that if this was a real news story, they would have questioned
the sellers after the sale. I wonder why they didn't.
By fuzzing the faces and not addressing it any further, even to the
point of saying the seller refused an interview, they make this look
pretty hokey.
I agree that if this really happened the way they presented it, laws
were broken. My first question is where does the producer live? They
attempted to buy guns in a couple of states and the transactions on
tape were in Tennessee. I bet the producer lives in Georgia. (CNN is
based in Atlanta)
When BATF starts rounding up the criminals, they have to start with
the guy who taped his crime.


Well, can we for the purpose of this discussion view this "report" as a
hypothetical but not proven to be real yet? Of course that kills the
perspective of those in the discussion riding on this as "evidence"...


The role of journalism in a report like this isn't to effect the arrest
or apprehension of those breaking the law. It is to expose the law
breaking.

Journalists enjoy a privilege called "confidentiality of sources" and
are not required to identify the people in the report. That's why their
images are blurred.


If this is as common as depicted, why has BATF not put a few
undercover folks in there and sent some sellers to jail? That would
surely make the news. Might even help the problem of too many guns out
there.


These people would rather have the issue than an arrest. If they
followed through and had these people arrested they would not be able
to say it was still going on. They had to scour gun shows in several
states before they found a guy who would sell then guns in illegal
sale. Where are all the people who said "no way"?



You obviously didn't pay much attention to the report or video.
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On 11/5/14 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2014 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:44:58 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:35:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2014 8:22 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/5/2014 12:54 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:00:41 -0500, KC wrote:




I doubt it... Could be that they fudged the circumstances or edited
though. CNN and even more MSNBC have been caught several times doing
things like that.. I am not saying this story is fudged, but it's
very
possible if nobody ever really got busted.

I think that if this was a real news story, they would have
questioned
the sellers after the sale. I wonder why they didn't.
By fuzzing the faces and not addressing it any further, even to the
point of saying the seller refused an interview, they make this look
pretty hokey.
I agree that if this really happened the way they presented it, laws
were broken. My first question is where does the producer live? They
attempted to buy guns in a couple of states and the transactions on
tape were in Tennessee. I bet the producer lives in Georgia. (CNN is
based in Atlanta)
When BATF starts rounding up the criminals, they have to start with
the guy who taped his crime.


Well, can we for the purpose of this discussion view this "report"
as a
hypothetical but not proven to be real yet? Of course that kills the
perspective of those in the discussion riding on this as "evidence"...


The role of journalism in a report like this isn't to effect the arrest
or apprehension of those breaking the law. It is to expose the law
breaking.

Journalists enjoy a privilege called "confidentiality of sources" and
are not required to identify the people in the report. That's why
their
images are blurred.


If this is as common as depicted, why has BATF not put a few
undercover folks in there and sent some sellers to jail? That would
surely make the news. Might even help the problem of too many guns out
there.


These people would rather have the issue than an arrest. If they
followed through and had these people arrested they would not be able
to say it was still going on. They had to scour gun shows in several
states before they found a guy who would sell then guns in illegal
sale. Where are all the people who said "no way"?



You obviously didn't pay much attention to the report or video.


no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote

many hits for virginia...here is one:

http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6




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On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote

many hits for virginia...here is one:

http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6


I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade
center" too but that does not make it true.
The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their
little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal?

Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns
came from a gun show.



CNN. Not MSNBC. Let's keep the stories straight.

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On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote

many hits for virginia...here is one:

http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6


I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade
center" too but that does not make it true.
The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their
little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal?

Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns
came from a gun show.



Oh. If so, then they must be ok.
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:44:07 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:09:57 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2014 12:55 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:32:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


no shortage of hits on "gun show loophole."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-ztawuh98

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Unanimous-Vote

many hits for virginia...here is one:

http://tinyurl.com/mywfmo6

I can get thousands of hits on "the Mossad blew up the world trade
center" too but that does not make it true.
The fact is that these guys on MSNBC broke federal laws to make their
little movie. Would more laws make it more illegal?

Dick produced a stat that says less than one percent of crime guns
came from a gun show.



Oh. If so, then they must be ok.


Certainly not the problem the hype would have us believe.

Seven tenths of one percent? That is like the number of hunters who
get shot by their dog.


That was funny!!


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