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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:09:39 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.

You need to put something into the target stand and not just shoot
through the square.

Like what? Zombie pics?

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Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/20/2014 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:38:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.


Little Tavern is a White Castle sort of thing if you are a mid
westerner.
They long predate McDonalds. My father flipped burgers at Little
Tavern for a few weeks in 1930 or so when he had just arrived in DC
from Oklahoma.
It is a "slider" type burger with grilled onions and a pickle slice on
a steamed bun.

The 3 main burger chains have different philosophies on the burger.
McD does make them up and stock them under the lights from what I see.
BK cooks the meat in a robo broiler, stocks the meat at the end of the
broiler or over at the sandwich station and makes up the sandwich to
order. (if the meat is cold, they nuke it)
Wendy's keeps burgers cooking on the grill all day, making the
sandwich to order and when the meat on the grill gets too old, they
make chili out of it.
I don't know much about McD but Wendy's and BK use the computer system
to predict how many burgers to cook, based on past usage in 15 minute
intervals.
The manager has an opportunity to override the computer but he does it
at his peril because they also get rated by the same 15 minute
interval and it is a business of pennies.

Everything they do is logged (fry drops, burgers cooked etc) and
balanced against sales. The guys in Columbus or Miami have a pretty
good idea of how many burgers are getting cold and how long the fries
have been baking, if they want to look.
It least that was the way it was when I got away from the business and
I have to believe the computer only got better. That is why I think
the robot store is not that far fetched. They could lose about half of
the kitchen staff and only make things go smoother. Ordering on your
phone could take out a couple more of the counter staff, particularity
if I-pay type services take the money out of the transaction.




I don't go to McDonalds often but I think they now "cook" to order.
"Cooking" is basically nuking a pre-cooked piece of something they call
hamburger in the microwave and assembling the burger per the order. I
don't think they stack 'em up anymore.

They seem to have them in a drawer from what I see. When I go in for
coffee, I can see them assembling the burgers and they open a small drawer,
take out the paddy and place on bun. Probably warming drawers. Never see
a micro wave.

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On 10/21/14 11:29 AM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.



It'll be easier to win the war against ISIS than win the war against
squirrels. :)

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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Greg, around here we refer white tails as overgrown wild goats

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Bill, an HMR is pretty good but kind of an "overkill" for small edible game like squirrels and rabbit. I prefer to use my winchester model 74 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only which is pretty quiet in the woods. Less racket than a .22 LR

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

===

If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Bill, an HMR is pretty good but kind of an "overkill" for small edible game like squirrels and rabbit. I prefer to use my winchester model 74 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only which is pretty quiet in the woods. Less racket than a .22 LR

As a kid, that's all I ever hunted with. Couldn't afford the LR.

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Wayne, I think somebody produces a spinning feeder that when a small critter like a squirrel or chipmunk tries to climb onto it, the think spins and throws them off. Kinda neat idea actually