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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:52:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Wayne, I think somebody produces a spinning feeder that when a small critter like a squirrel or chipmunk tries to climb onto it, the think spins and throws them off. Kinda neat idea actually

It 's the 'Yankee Flipper'. Had one in the back yard. Funny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-7g-fl3g8

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, you think .22LR is rare and expensive, go looking for .22 short!

I'm talking 55 years ago!

Now that I can afford it, I can't find .22 anywhere. Don't need it
though.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:56:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:28:42 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

===

If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

The closest I have seen was a feeder under a big sheet metal cone,
suspended on baling wire, far from anything they can climb on
Even if they can get down the wire, the cone shoots them off away from
the feeder.
As far as I am concerned, if you are feeding wildlife, why are the
squirrels excluded? You end up sharing the food with the rats anyway.
A roof rat can get to just about anything a squirrel can and they have
no problem foraging the stuff the birds scatter on the ground under
the feeder.

My bird feeders are gone because of rats! About five years ago I
looked out back and saw three Norwegian rats under the sunflower seed
bird feeder. Exterminators said to ditch the bird feeders. After a few
months the rats were no longer into the bait stations. Haven't seen
hide nor hair of them since.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:43:44 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:31:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Deer are 180 pound rats. They are not much of an indicator of bio
diversity. I have seen them in downtown DC.

Funny. When I was a kid and even into early 20's, I loved venison. A
year or so ago a friend gave me some venison sausage and some steaks.
The smell of them cooking took away my appetite for venison
completely.

Might depend on the care of the venison. As a kid, did not like venison,
but coastal season started in July. I think in the heat the deer went bad
as it fell to the ground. Later, my dad got some deer when the snow and
cold was in season and the venison tasted decent.

Could have been. Don't remember the time of year, although it was
during deer season here, so most likely between October and January.

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Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, you think .22LR is rare and expensive, go looking for .22 short!

I'm talking 55 years ago!

Now that I can afford it, I can't find .22 anywhere. Don't need it
though.

Opened a drawer where I keep extra gun cleaning stuff the other day, and
there is a partial brick of .22lf. Price tag says $13.95! Guess I have
had it awhile.

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Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:56:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:28:42 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

===

If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

The closest I have seen was a feeder under a big sheet metal cone,
suspended on baling wire, far from anything they can climb on
Even if they can get down the wire, the cone shoots them off away from
the feeder.
As far as I am concerned, if you are feeding wildlife, why are the
squirrels excluded? You end up sharing the food with the rats anyway.
A roof rat can get to just about anything a squirrel can and they have
no problem foraging the stuff the birds scatter on the ground under
the feeder.

My bird feeders are gone because of rats! About five years ago I
looked out back and saw three Norwegian rats under the sunflower seed
bird feeder. Exterminators said to ditch the bird feeders. After a few
months the rats were no longer into the bait stations. Haven't seen
hide nor hair of them since.

We get roof rats here in suburbia. Smaller than a Norwegian rat. But
still big.

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On 10/22/14 10:45 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, you think .22LR is rare and expensive, go looking for .22 short!

I'm talking 55 years ago!

Now that I can afford it, I can't find .22 anywhere. Don't need it
though.


You mean, you can't find it at walmart. There's plenty of .22LR ammo
around, even decent ammo at 5 cents or less a round. In the last week, I
bought 500 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain at 8 cents a round. A few
minutes ago, Cabelas had Mini-Mags at 9 cents a round. Academy had
Federal Champion 40 grain at less than 5 cents a round.

Perhaps you should concentrate on fewer hobbies at one time. Probably
shouldn't be firearms or anything else that requires decent eyesight.


--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:25:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You mean, you can't find it at walmart. There's plenty of .22LR ammo
around, even decent ammo at 5 cents or less a round. In the last week, I
bought 500 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain at 8 cents a round. A few
minutes ago, Cabelas had Mini-Mags at 9 cents a round. Academy had
Federal Champion 40 grain at less than 5 cents a round.

I am getting Email ads for .22 too

Herring is a walmart shopper.
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On 23 Oct 2014 00:24:49 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:25:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You mean, you can't find it at walmart. There's plenty of .22LR ammo
around, even decent ammo at 5 cents or less a round. In the last week, I
bought 500 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain at 8 cents a round. A few
minutes ago, Cabelas had Mini-Mags at 9 cents a round. Academy had
Federal Champion 40 grain at less than 5 cents a round.

I am getting Email ads for .22 too

Herring is a walmart shopper.

===

So are you. What's your point?

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F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:25:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You mean, you can't find it at walmart. There's plenty of .22LR ammo
around, even decent ammo at 5 cents or less a round. In the last week, I
bought 500 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain at 8 cents a round. A few
minutes ago, Cabelas had Mini-Mags at 9 cents a round. Academy had
Federal Champion 40 grain at less than 5 cents a round.

I am getting Email ads for .22 too

Herring is a walmart shopper.

So are a vast number of others. They must be doing something correct.