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On 9/19/14, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:31:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/18/14 11:07 PM,
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You should be able to buy a Morse or Teleflex cable for around $50 unless
Yamaha does cables differently than everyone else.

Problem is which Morse number.

Call a parts house. You pretty much only need to specify length.
Transfer ends from one cable to the other.

Yup that is how Yamaha cables work.
You buy the generic cable with threaded ends and you get the
appropriate adapter kits for the terminations.
When I got my cables they were about $50 each for the new "slick"
Yamaha branded cable (TFX or something like that)
I got them online.


In the good old days, when one of my father's customers swamped or sank
a boat, or it went down in a storm and was rescued, the throttle and
shift control cable to the outboard usually froze up because of sand or
corrosion. One of the shop guys would remove the ends, pull the inner
metal cables out of their rubbery covers, and either replace the cables
or clean and grease them and put them back in. Back in those days, labor
was still less expensive than new parts, and the controls were
mechanical. These days, sadly, most outboard controls from the helm are
electronic.


I have not seen any fly by wire outboards yet. They have them but they
are certainly not all that common.
It is not even an option on small and midrange outboards.
The Yamaha "command link" is just instrumentation. I know there is
"Electronic Command"
You usually would only see the electronic controllers on trips or
quads and that is people for whom money is no object.



I just saw three outboard rigs with Mercs set up with electronic
controls. Perhaps they're not yet available on the edge of Camp Swampy,
where you live, but they are available up north. I'd guess Yamaha had
them, too.
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On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:14:25 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/19/14, 11:52 AM, wrote:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:31:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




On 9/18/14 11:07 PM,
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:38:26 -0400, Harrold wrote:






You should be able to buy a Morse or Teleflex cable for around $50 unless


Yamaha does cables differently than everyone else.




Problem is which Morse number.




Call a parts house. You pretty much only need to specify length.


Transfer ends from one cable to the other.




Yup that is how Yamaha cables work.


You buy the generic cable with threaded ends and you get the


appropriate adapter kits for the terminations.


When I got my cables they were about $50 each for the new "slick"


Yamaha branded cable (TFX or something like that)


I got them online.






In the good old days, when one of my father's customers swamped or sank


a boat, or it went down in a storm and was rescued, the throttle and


shift control cable to the outboard usually froze up because of sand or


corrosion. One of the shop guys would remove the ends, pull the inner


metal cables out of their rubbery covers, and either replace the cables


or clean and grease them and put them back in. Back in those days, labor


was still less expensive than new parts, and the controls were


mechanical. These days, sadly, most outboard controls from the helm are


electronic.




I have not seen any fly by wire outboards yet. They have them but they


are certainly not all that common.


It is not even an option on small and midrange outboards.


The Yamaha "command link" is just instrumentation. I know there is


"Electronic Command"


You usually would only see the electronic controllers on trips or


quads and that is people for whom money is no object.








I just saw three outboard rigs with Mercs set up with electronic

controls. Perhaps they're not yet available on the edge of Camp Swampy,

where you live, but they are available up north. I'd guess Yamaha had

them, too.



"These days, sadly, most outboard controls from the helm are electronic."

Three does not equal "most".
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On 9/19/14, 1:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:14:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/14, 11:52 AM,
wrote:

I have not seen any fly by wire outboards yet. They have them but they
are certainly not all that common.
It is not even an option on small and midrange outboards.
The Yamaha "command link" is just instrumentation. I know there is
"Electronic Command"
You usually would only see the electronic controllers on trips or
quads and that is people for whom money is no object.



I just saw three outboard rigs with Mercs set up with electronic
controls. Perhaps they're not yet available on the edge of Camp Swampy,
where you live, but they are available up north. I'd guess Yamaha had
them, too.


Like someone posted above some of the larger motors have them but not
midrange. The electronic control only makes sense on triple and quad
installations and that is how Yamaha markets it.

From their site
"For multiple-engine applications, these controls feature automatic
engine RPM synchronization. Not only that, but in quad configurations,
the control box syncs port and port center engines together, and
starboard and starboard center engines together. Commanding hundreds
of horses doesn’t get much easier than this."

In a single or even twin installation it just looks like unnecessary
complexity for a fairly simple operation. I am not surprised that they
try to sell it on high end engines since I am sure it is a very
profitable option for them.
It looks like it is only standard on the V-8, it is an option on the
V-6 (on the Yamaha site)
The inline motors don't even seem to offer it. (200 and below)



The outboards and boats I was looking at this morning (I had an hour to
kill before a meeting near BWI) all were electronically controlled. I'll
have to stop at my friendly Deale dealer and see what is coming with the
new Gradys and Parkers and Yamahas. I don't pay much attention to
smaller outboards.
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