On 9/15/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:39:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:35:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



As for the firearm in question, I suppose it has appeal to someone who

collect ugly, oddball guns.



Talking about ugly oddball guns I had a fleeting notion of buying a

Judge but it passed when I read some of the reviews.

Other than novelty skeet shooting, I am not sure what I would do with

it.

As a self defense gun, it was roundly discounted. The .410 is inferior

to just about anything 9mm or above.

A friend has one, and I've fired it a few times. Shot both 45 Colt and .410 shells with it. Lots of recoil, decent accuracy. It didn't excite me enough to consider one.



My buddy's wife bought a S&W Governor for her first handgun. Like the
Judge, it shoots 45 cal and .410 shells. I tried it out at the range
shortly after she got it. Nice gun.

This guy does a review on the Judge vs the Governor. He obviously isn't
a big fan of the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8sMQgVrdA

On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:51:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/15/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:39:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:35:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



As for the firearm in question, I suppose it has appeal to someone who

collect ugly, oddball guns.



Talking about ugly oddball guns I had a fleeting notion of buying a

Judge but it passed when I read some of the reviews.

Other than novelty skeet shooting, I am not sure what I would do with

it.

As a self defense gun, it was roundly discounted. The .410 is inferior

to just about anything 9mm or above.

A friend has one, and I've fired it a few times. Shot both 45 Colt and .410 shells with it. Lots of recoil, decent accuracy. It didn't excite me enough to consider one.



My buddy's wife bought a S&W Governor for her first handgun. Like the
Judge, it shoots 45 cal and .410 shells. I tried it out at the range
shortly after she got it. Nice gun.

This guy does a review on the Judge vs the Governor. He obviously isn't
a big fan of the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8sMQgVrdA


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the
quickening drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from
name brand suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you
shop carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and
smaller but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the
morons who get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the
NRA and its manufacturer enablers.

On 9/15/2014 5:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:51:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/15/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:39:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:35:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



As for the firearm in question, I suppose it has appeal to someone
who

collect ugly, oddball guns.



Talking about ugly oddball guns I had a fleeting notion of buying a

Judge but it passed when I read some of the reviews.

Other than novelty skeet shooting, I am not sure what I would do with

it.

As a self defense gun, it was roundly discounted. The .410 is inferior

to just about anything 9mm or above.

A friend has one, and I've fired it a few times. Shot both 45 Colt
and .410 shells with it. Lots of recoil, decent accuracy. It
didn't excite me enough to consider one.



My buddy's wife bought a S&W Governor for her first handgun. Like the
Judge, it shoots 45 cal and .410 shells. I tried it out at the range
shortly after she got it. Nice gun.

This guy does a review on the Judge vs the Governor. He obviously isn't
a big fan of the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8sMQgVrdA


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the
quickening drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from
name brand suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you
shop carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and
smaller but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the
morons who get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the
NRA and its manufacturer enablers.


My friend's wife bought the Governor for concealed carry and keeps it
loaded with .410 birdshot. She carries it in her purse. Makes sense
for a woman, I think. She's unlikely to be in a shoot out at long
range. Birdshot probably won't kill but the chances of missing are reduced.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/15/2014 5:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:51:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/15/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:39:38 PM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:35:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



As for the firearm in question, I suppose it has appeal to someone
who

collect ugly, oddball guns.



Talking about ugly oddball guns I had a fleeting notion of buying a

Judge but it passed when I read some of the reviews.

Other than novelty skeet shooting, I am not sure what I would do
with

it.

As a self defense gun, it was roundly discounted. The .410 is
inferior

to just about anything 9mm or above.

A friend has one, and I've fired it a few times. Shot both 45 Colt
and .410 shells with it. Lots of recoil, decent accuracy. It
didn't excite me enough to consider one.



My buddy's wife bought a S&W Governor for her first handgun. Like the
Judge, it shoots 45 cal and .410 shells. I tried it out at the range
shortly after she got it. Nice gun.

This guy does a review on the Judge vs the Governor. He obviously
isn't
a big fan of the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8sMQgVrdA


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the
quickening drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from
name brand suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you
shop carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and
smaller but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the
morons who get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the
NRA and its manufacturer enablers.


My friend's wife bought the Governor for concealed carry and keeps it
loaded with .410 birdshot. She carries it in her purse. Makes sense
for a woman, I think. She's unlikely to be in a shoot out at long
range. Birdshot probably won't kill but the chances of missing are
reduced.



I would put a .45LC next in line after that bird shot in case the first
shot is a miss.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:51:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/15/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:39:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:35:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



As for the firearm in question, I suppose it has appeal to someone who

collect ugly, oddball guns.



Talking about ugly oddball guns I had a fleeting notion of buying a

Judge but it passed when I read some of the reviews.

Other than novelty skeet shooting, I am not sure what I would do with

it.

As a self defense gun, it was roundly discounted. The .410 is inferior

to just about anything 9mm or above.

A friend has one, and I've fired it a few times. Shot both 45 Colt
and .410 shells with it. Lots of recoil, decent accuracy. It didn't
excite me enough to consider one.



My buddy's wife bought a S&W Governor for her first handgun. Like the
Judge, it shoots 45 cal and .410 shells. I tried it out at the range
shortly after she got it. Nice gun.

This guy does a review on the Judge vs the Governor. He obviously isn't
a big fan of the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8sMQgVrdA


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the quickening
drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from name brand
suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you shop
carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and smaller
but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the morons who
get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the NRA and its
manufacturer enablers.

Looking in a drawer the other day, I noticed $13.95 price sticker on a
brick.

On 9/15/14 5:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:01:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.


There is no way I would pay $600 or even $300 for a novelty like that.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the
quickening drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from
name brand suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you
shop carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and
smaller but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the
morons who get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the
NRA and its manufacturer enablers.

Sportsmans guide just sent me an alert that they have Russian 9mm
cans (900 rounds) for $233. That is a quarter a shot


There's plenty of Russian 9mm around for less than 20 cents a round, and
even CCI Blazer for less than 25 cents a round. I only shoot S&B in my
revolver and lever rifle, either Federal or Lehigh Defensive in my AR,
and either CCI or Federal in my .22LR rifle.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/15/14 5:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:01:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/15/14 4:46 PM, wrote:


Humm S&W is better than Taurus ... Shocking ;-)
I think the actual street price probably reflects that. He was talking
about $600 and change for the taurus and they are $300-400 depending
on where you buy one. Not sure about the S&W

Personally I would pay about $200-250 used if someone was slapping me
in the face with it but the more I have thought about it, I am not
sure why. It would really just be a novelty for shooting at clay birds
at the electricians shoot. I think I may take my frontier scout next
time I go and see in a .22 shot load will even break a bird.


For $600, you can buy a real, high quality revolver or semi-auto, even a
small, concealable one, not a trickster pistol that shoots .45 and .410.


There is no way I would pay $600 or even $300 for a novelty like that.

The best news I've seen recently in the "shooting wars" is the
quickening drop in .22LR ammo prices. There are some decent rounds from
name brand suppliers out there for a nickel a round or even less if you
shop carefully, and there have been good price drops in .223, too, and
smaller but appreciate prices drops in .357 MAG. Apparently even the
morons who get their news from Faux aren't being duped as much by the
NRA and its manufacturer enablers.

Sportsmans guide just sent me an alert that they have Russian 9mm
cans (900 rounds) for $233. That is a quarter a shot


There's plenty of Russian 9mm around for less than 20 cents a round, and
even CCI Blazer for less than 25 cents a round. I only shoot S&B in my
revolver and lever rifle, either Federal or Lehigh Defensive in my AR,
and either CCI or Federal in my .22LR rifle.

There is lots of good ammo brands. Only thing I would not shoot, at least
in the AR is the steel case stuff. Do not want to spend 3 hours cleaning
the riffle. I shot PMC in the 45 ACP and worked great.

On 9/15/14 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:47:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's plenty of Russian 9mm around for less than 20 cents a round,

Where is that?



http://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

On 9/15/14 11:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:33:52 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/15/14 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:47:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's plenty of Russian 9mm around for less than 20 cents a round,

Where is that?



http://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

Cool site. Unfortunately they do not do as well on the other ammo I
use.
I guess I might get some ammo for that saturday night special I have
tho.



Some of the low-priced, reliable sites are not on the internet ammo
searcher tools. Also, if you buy from the sites, keep an eye on what
they charge for shipping. Some are reasonable and others are rip off
artists.

I bought a good deal of ammo for my AR from Cabelas. Good prices for
ordinary, U.S.-made FMJs and honest shipping charges.

On 9/16/14 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 06:47:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/15/14 11:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:33:52 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/15/14 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:47:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's plenty of Russian 9mm around for less than 20 cents a round,

Where is that?



http://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

Cool site. Unfortunately they do not do as well on the other ammo I
use.
I guess I might get some ammo for that saturday night special I have
tho.



Some of the low-priced, reliable sites are not on the internet ammo
searcher tools. Also, if you buy from the sites, keep an eye on what
they charge for shipping. Some are reasonable and others are rip off
artists.

I bought a good deal of ammo for my AR from Cabelas. Good prices for
ordinary, U.S.-made FMJs and honest shipping charges.

I just bought 1000 9mm from BulkAmmo and it was $211 shipped. Not
quite 20c but close, These are Berdan primed steel but I m not
reloading anyway.



Russian Berdan primed? Buy a jug of CLP...it's pretty dirty stuff.