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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:58:25 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 1:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:02:09 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:31:02 -0400, wrote: My point is if you are in a management position you have to be more assertive and confident in your decisions than you might be in your private life. In social situations I am far more likely to "go along to get along". But not Krause! Yup, if you are a union member you are, by definition, labor (not management) and you just get in line, keep your ideas to yourself and wait for your automatic promotions and raises. Being better trumped by time in grade. If you have a lot of initiative and self esteem, they will bludgeon it out of you. Your assumptions, as usual, are wrong. And I doubt Herring has the skills, strength, stamina, or brains to hold down even a hod carrier's job in the construction trades. You might be able to hold down a job as a punch-list guy, maybe. Your assertions, as usual, are BS. I've worked alongside many union tradesmen over the years. There were a few that were as good as non-union. Most were just average. The difference is that there were also a fair amount that were mouthbreathers that had barely scraped by getting in, but now that they were in they were set for life. Unlike in non-union shops, where they could be ****-canned for lack of performance. Performing a union job is absolutely nothing special. There is no incentive to perform beyond the lowest common denominator. In fact, doing so will get you "short-sheeted" by your coworkers, eh? Don't you dare stand out and make the rest look bad. They've "fought hard" to get what they have, if you consider coercion and thuggery as fighting hard. |
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On 8/28/2014 2:27 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:58:25 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/28/14 1:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:02:09 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:31:02 -0400, wrote: My point is if you are in a management position you have to be more assertive and confident in your decisions than you might be in your private life. In social situations I am far more likely to "go along to get along". But not Krause! Yup, if you are a union member you are, by definition, labor (not management) and you just get in line, keep your ideas to yourself and wait for your automatic promotions and raises. Being better trumped by time in grade. If you have a lot of initiative and self esteem, they will bludgeon it out of you. Your assumptions, as usual, are wrong. And I doubt Herring has the skills, strength, stamina, or brains to hold down even a hod carrier's job in the construction trades. You might be able to hold down a job as a punch-list guy, maybe. Your assertions, as usual, are BS. I've worked alongside many union tradesmen over the years. There were a few that were as good as non-union. Most were just average. The difference is that there were also a fair amount that were mouthbreathers that had barely scraped by getting in, but now that they were in they were set for life. Unlike in non-union shops, where they could be ****-canned for lack of performance. Performing a union job is absolutely nothing special. There is no incentive to perform beyond the lowest common denominator. In fact, doing so will get you "short-sheeted" by your coworkers, eh? Don't you dare stand out and make the rest look bad. They've "fought hard" to get what they have, if you consider coercion and thuggery as fighting hard. You got that right... They told me to slow down, or they would take me out. |
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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:30:54 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote: Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you. I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40 pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials. None of those are special union skills. The only specialized union skill is how to sandbag your own productivity without being obvious. |
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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:30:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You might be able to hold down a job as a punch-list guy, maybe. Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you. I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40 pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials. === None of those skills are particularly difficult to learn for someone who is moderately intelligent, motivated and reasonably fit. I guess that leaves you out. Greg worked for IBM back in the days when you really had to be able to analyze complex computer system problems while working with customers in a courteous and professional manner, something that I'm sure you've never done. |
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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
On 8/28/2014 3:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:30:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You might be able to hold down a job as a punch-list guy, maybe. Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you. I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40 pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials. === None of those skills are particularly difficult to learn for someone who is moderately intelligent, motivated and reasonably fit. I guess that leaves you out. Greg worked for IBM back in the days when you really had to be able to analyze complex computer system problems while working with customers in a courteous and professional manner, something that I'm sure you've never done. That's why he sucks up to the Apple genius. |
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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
On 8/28/2014 4:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:30:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You might be able to hold down a job as a punch-list guy, maybe. Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you. I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40 pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials. === None of those skills are particularly difficult to learn for someone who is moderately intelligent, motivated and reasonably fit. I guess that leaves you out. Greg worked for IBM back in the days when you really had to be able to analyze complex computer system problems while working with customers in a courteous and professional manner, something that I'm sure you've never done. or can read the side of the box....  |
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Time Magazine this week has a test for narcissism. Anyone listening?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:05:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:25:55 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Greg worked for IBM back in the days when you really had to be able to analyze complex computer system problems while working with customers in a courteous and professional manner, something that I'm sure you've never done. That is a business that simply does not exist anymore and the writing was on the wall by 1989 or so. That is why I started putting different cards in my wallet around 1990. IBM did pay for about $100,000 worth of education in the early 90s for me. They were trying to find new markets and I was willing to be on the leading edge on that. I pursued my other electrical interests on my own. I wasn't sure whether I wanted to be a contractor or an inspector/plans examiner so I sat for both suites of tests. === Yes, the equipment became a lot more reliable and easier to service, and at the same time the cost of components became a lot cheaper than the labor to service them. That was a good thing for those of us on the end user side, at least until the data center consolidation movement got into full swing. After that it became a constant scramble to find a horse you could ride for a while before it got shot out from underneath you. It was a good career though with many benefits and I have no regrets. The component count plummeted! NCR put out a 605 Mimi controller. 4 boards. Had has much power as an NCR 315 did 15 years before. 315 probably had 200 boards. 2 flip flops per board. Later a 14 pin DIP package ic 74ls74 was the same thing. |
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