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Poco Loco August 20th 14 09:43 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:37:28 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


I don't have a problem with this in a riot situation. The thing that
bothers me is the paramilitary sway teams responding to calls that
would have been better handled by a couple guys with cheap suits and a
crown vic.
Waco springs to mind ... or Elian Gonzelez


Are you kidding? Criminals can "legally" or illegally get military
weapons - including machine guns. They can also get any kind of body
armor. It's all on the market.
I want cops armed to the teeth.
After the North Hollywood bank shootout, no reason not to.
I don't know why you want cops outgunned by criminals.
Don't like cops?


Are you the same guy that said ISIS was just a bunch of leaderless thugs who would be gone by the
wayside soon (or words to that effect)?


KC August 20th 14 10:01 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...


Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)



Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.


You are the one crowing from the tree tops.. I just asked a question you
feel uncomfortable answering, it's an insecurity you wear on your
sleeve.. even if you do talk too tough for your place.

KC August 20th 14 10:03 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 4:27 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/20/14 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)


Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.


After my wife got her master's, she spent about a year treating people
like Snotty at a state forensic psychiatric hospital in Florida. Most of
them, sadly, were a lot less amusing than our boy here.

What Snotty doesn't know, of course, is *who* carries concealed because,
well, the firearm, if it is being carried, is *concealed.*

He probably thinks, "Is that a bulge in your pocket, or are you just
glad to see me?"



He needs to participate in the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. He's
overheating.



wow... pot, kettle, black...

F*O*A*D August 20th 14 10:10 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
On 8/20/14 5:05 PM, KC wrote:



That's why here we have State Police, Nat Guard, and all sorts of task
forces, I still don't think we need SWAT or a Bomb Disposal Unit here.



Your beleaguered neighbors probably disagree. Are you still barbecuing
in the front yard? Got a busted out old refrigerator on the front porch?

Mr. Luddite August 20th 14 10:13 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 5:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)



Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.


You are the one crowing from the tree tops.. I just asked a question you
feel uncomfortable answering, it's an insecurity you wear on your
sleeve.. even if you do talk too tough for your place.



Pay attention (if you can). I answered your question in my first reply.

KC August 20th 14 10:14 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 5:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)



Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.



Ooooops, looks like I really hit a nerve... And the emperor has no
clothes :)

KC August 20th 14 10:17 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 5:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 5:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)


Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.


You are the one crowing from the tree tops.. I just asked a question you
feel uncomfortable answering, it's an insecurity you wear on your
sleeve.. even if you do talk too tough for your place.



Pay attention (if you can). I answered your question in my first reply.


Kinda' missed it with the name calling and dodging... sorry.

Mr. Luddite August 20th 14 10:20 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 5:14 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 5:01 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry
or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that
want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it
under the pretense of concealed carry :)


Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what
I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.

I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits
and blown fuses.



Ooooops, looks like I really hit a nerve... And the emperor has no
clothes :)



You couldn't hit a basketball with a tennis racket.



[email protected] August 20th 14 10:53 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:11:46 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think
cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the
population in NYC.


Unless you think that R's are more likely to serve their fellow citizens by being cops, that indicates that it's likely that 66% of NY's cops are D's. As are the citizens.

Seems violence by humans isn't determined by their political leanings.

Boating All Out August 20th 14 11:30 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
In article ,
says...


What cops have machine guns? SWAT might have an MP5/M16/M4.
Big deal.


None of which would have done much against the kind of body armor the
bad guys had


Rifles would have made head shots a lot easier.

Would North Hollywood have been any better if the cops were spraying
the street with automatic weapons fire too?


SWAT teams don't do that.

Why do they need a machine gun then


I ask again. What cops have machine guns? MP5/M16/m4 aren't machine
guns.
As far as the North Hollywood shooters, the cops had no rifles.
And that's the big difference between "now and then."

Giving the cops more bullets in their gun only assures more innocent
bystanders are shot.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25...olice-gunfire/


They did well, those cops. Lots of people around. And they didn't have
auto weapons.

9 innocent bystanders is OK with you?


The cops had no choice when the ex-Coast Guard marksman leveled a .45 at
them.
Are 2 dead cops and a killer on the loose better than 9 wounded innocent
bystanders? And only 3 were struck by bullets, the rest had superficial
wounds from fragments of bullets or concrete.
You be the judge. To me it's life in the big city.
Besides, these cops didn't have "machine guns" and innocent bystanders
are always getting shot.
These cops did good, with 10 of 16 shots on the target.



l
A sniper on the roof with a deer rifle would have been much more
effective. If I was going to do one thing with the police, it would be
more actual combat marksmanship training, not bigger guns.
My old IBM buddy was a deputy in Charlotte County
Every year they have a little competition, hit 5 bowling pins at 7
yards, shoot till they all fall. They have patrol officers who have to
reload their double stack Sigs before they finally hit them all.


Most cops never fire their gun in the line of duty.


... and when they do, I want them to hit the real bad guy, nobody else


In your perfect world. Like having a sniper in every location.

The winner was usually one old detective who carried a 5 shot Chief
(2" .38 revolver). Five shots, 5 hits.



Anecdote.
I think this "cop militarization" is just overblown lib talk.
Most of what people are seeing is vehicles and armor.
Chicago cops handled the Grant Park yippies with nightsticks.
You better have more than a nightstick now.


Tanks???


Where are the tanks? You've been snookered by the press.



KC August 20th 14 11:51 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
On 8/20/2014 6:30 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


What cops have machine guns? SWAT might have an MP5/M16/M4.
Big deal.


None of which would have done much against the kind of body armor the
bad guys had


Rifles would have made head shots a lot easier.

Would North Hollywood have been any better if the cops were spraying
the street with automatic weapons fire too?

SWAT teams don't do that.

Why do they need a machine gun then


I ask again. What cops have machine guns? MP5/M16/m4 aren't machine
guns.
As far as the North Hollywood shooters, the cops had no rifles.
And that's the big difference between "now and then."

Giving the cops more bullets in their gun only assures more innocent
bystanders are shot.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25...olice-gunfire/


They did well, those cops. Lots of people around. And they didn't have
auto weapons.

9 innocent bystanders is OK with you?


The cops had no choice when the ex-Coast Guard marksman leveled a .45 at
them.
Are 2 dead cops and a killer on the loose better than 9 wounded innocent
bystanders? And only 3 were struck by bullets, the rest had superficial
wounds from fragments of bullets or concrete.
You be the judge. To me it's life in the big city.
Besides, these cops didn't have "machine guns" and innocent bystanders
are always getting shot.
These cops did good, with 10 of 16 shots on the target.



l
A sniper on the roof with a deer rifle would have been much more
effective. If I was going to do one thing with the police, it would be
more actual combat marksmanship training, not bigger guns.
My old IBM buddy was a deputy in Charlotte County
Every year they have a little competition, hit 5 bowling pins at 7
yards, shoot till they all fall. They have patrol officers who have to
reload their double stack Sigs before they finally hit them all.


Most cops never fire their gun in the line of duty.


... and when they do, I want them to hit the real bad guy, nobody else


In your perfect world. Like having a sniper in every location.

The winner was usually one old detective who carried a 5 shot Chief
(2" .38 revolver). Five shots, 5 hits.


Anecdote.
I think this "cop militarization" is just overblown lib talk.
Most of what people are seeing is vehicles and armor.
Chicago cops handled the Grant Park yippies with nightsticks.
You better have more than a nightstick now.


Tanks???


Where are the tanks? You've been snookered by the press.



I think he means APC's...

[email protected] August 21st 14 01:52 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:31:26 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:

Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of

daydreams of being a hero, harry does...



I wish he'd shoot the end of his cock off....if only he could get it out of donnies mouth....

[email protected] August 21st 14 01:54 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:25:09 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:

I have a 20ga shotgun and a semi-auto 22 cal rifle that haven't been used in about 30 years.

Both are gathering dust in a closet and are protected by trigger guards.

For protection against the unlikely event of either him or Dickson showing up to do me harm, I have Mr Estwing Hatchet.

It would be a lot closer and more personal that way.




They wont save your ass from the beating of your life, asshole.

You're running on borrowed time as it is.

[email protected] August 21st 14 01:56 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:27:18 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/20/14 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:


On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:


On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:


On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:




You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,




paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or


not.






I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.






Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of


daydreams of being a hero, harry does...




Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry


or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that


want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it


under the pretense of concealed carry :)






Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what


I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.




I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits


and blown fuses.




After my wife got her master's, she spent about a year treating people

like Snotty at a state forensic psychiatric hospital in Florida.




Too bad she never looked into that ******** of a brain you think you have.....

[email protected] August 21st 14 01:59 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:20:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/20/2014 5:14 PM, KC wrote:

On 8/20/2014 5:01 PM, KC wrote:


On 8/20/2014 4:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 8/20/2014 3:34 PM, KC wrote:


On 8/20/2014 3:31 PM, KC wrote:


On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:


On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:




You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,




paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or


not.






I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.






Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of


daydreams of being a hero, harry does...




Two kind of gun owners in my opinion.. Folks like Greg who would carry


or keep for protection, and folks like harry, don, or Dick, that


want/need folks to know they carry for protection... even if they do it


under the pretense of concealed carry :)






Harry's right. You *are* an amusing little troll. You don't like what


I watch on TV and now I am a regular Wyatt Earp.




I can imagine your brain scan. Nothing but a bunch of shorted circuits


and blown fuses.






Ooooops, looks like I really hit a nerve... And the emperor has no


clothes :)






You couldn't hit a basketball with a tennis racket.


And you couldn't hit a Bull in the ass with a Scoopshovel.

You're ****ing Ego is in the way. I'll die laughing the day someone punches that face of yours in, ****.

True North[_2_] August 21st 14 02:07 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
BrilloHead drools..

" You're ****ing Ego is in the way "


Duh..... that would be your, not you're, idiot



Califbill August 21st 14 02:14 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 8:01 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/19/2014 6:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/19/2014 6:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 5:59 PM, Califbill wrote:


I have a friend who is a retired cop. He carefully lined up a shot
on a
bad guy, shooting uphill, so he did not hit a car on the freeway. A
mile
away, went through the sheet metal side of a metal building at the San
Mateo Fairgrounds and lodged in the neck of a lady. Luckily did not
kill
her or paralyze her. **** happens.

Murder by cop seems to be increasing in frequency. And police forces are
loading up with military equipment. These are not good signs.



Have to admit, I was LOL at Chris Hayes (MSNBC) last night when a
couple of rocks were thrown at him by some of the more violent
"protesters". Hayes is hyper by nature but you could tell that the
rocks being thrown at him while he stood safely about 20 feet from a
fence separating him from the protesters scared the crap out of him. He
was babbling so badly he couldn't finish a sentence.

Today MSNBC is reporting that Hayes was "pelted" with rocks. A bit of
an exaggeration, for sure. I recall two rocks being tossed in his
direction that caused him to almost **** in his pants.



In all seriousness, why do you watch MNNBC? Is it for the entertainment
like here? Or do you think you seriously get "news" there?


You can't get to the truth unless you listen to all sides and figger out who's lying.



All sides are. BBC is probably the best.

[email protected] August 21st 14 02:51 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:07:11 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
BrilloHead drools..



" You're ****ing Ego is in the way "





Duh..... that would be your, not you're, idiot


Make sure you correct me as I'm beating your head in, asshole.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d August 21st 14 05:11 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.



I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...


Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

KC August 21st 14 05:39 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...


Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

[email protected] August 21st 14 06:21 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:11:36 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.



Why don't you post that picture of Mop Boy, or shut the **** up?

Califbill August 21st 14 06:57 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...


Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?


Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!

KC August 21st 14 12:14 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?


Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...

F*O*A*D August 21st 14 12:19 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/14 7:14 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?


Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...



Oh, puh-lease. You have so many chips on your shoulder, you could be
used to light campfires all across 'Merica.

Boating All Out August 21st 14 01:45 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:51:00 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/20/2014 6:30 PM, Boating All Out wrote:


Tanks???

Where are the tanks? You've been snookered by the press.



I think he means APC's...


I agree that these do not meet the military definition of a tank but
they are certainly more than a local police force needs and when they
mount crew served guns on them they start approaching the tank
category.

Ft Myers just bought an MRAP (for less than the scrap value of the
steel)
I was not even aware of the big "mine" problem in our streets.
They tried to make the case that this would be cheaper to maintain
than their old armored vehicle but this is still a proprietary DoD
vehicle and they will be buying parts from the same military vendors
who sell is $600 toilet seats.
BTW in the 20 years that they had the old armored vehicle, I don't
remember one single incident that actually required armor.
It is just a float in the Edison Pageant of Light parade.


The MRAP will make a better float. Don't you think the police are aware
of their own budget? Ft Meyers paid $3500 for theirs. Most are free,
so maybe its got low miles. That's about the cost of a 1998 Chevy.
The Feds paid about $500,000
If it is too expensive to maintain, it'll be scrapped.
Here's some info.
http://www.policeone.com/police-
products/vehicles/specialty/articles/6735349-The-hidden-hazards-of-
MRAPs/

Boating All Out August 21st 14 01:46 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:30:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

The cops had no choice when the ex-Coast Guard marksman leveled a .45 at
them.
Are 2 dead cops and a killer on the loose better than 9 wounded innocent
bystanders? And only 3 were struck by bullets, the rest had superficial
wounds from fragments of bullets or concrete.
You be the judge. To me it's life in the big city.
Besides, these cops didn't have "machine guns" and innocent bystanders
are always getting shot.
These cops did good, with 10 of 16 shots on the target.


It sounds like at least 9 shots got away from them and 16 shots for
ONE ****ING GUY from 20 feet away?

These boys need a little more practice. They just spray and pray.
If anyone needs magazine restrictions, it is the cops.
If they didn't have 19 in the gun, they might aim better.
When my old chief was teaching me to shoot a .45, I got one bullet at
a time. I didn't even have a magazine in the gun. Every shot was
followed by the question, "what did you see over the sights when you
fired".
I didn't get a magazine until we both agreed, I was actually aiming
each shot.


So, who was shooting at YOU? Again, yours is a perfect world.

Boating All Out August 21st 14 01:46 PM

What could possibly go wrong?th
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:30:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

I ask again. What cops have machine guns? MP5/M16/m4 aren't machine
guns.



BATF would disagree with that.
Certainly there are AR variants that are SA only but they are not
M16A1's or M4s and the MP5 is certainly a machine gun. I have fired
all but the M4.


The ATF considers a shoestring a machine gun. Since I'll never deal
with the ATF, I'll continue to use the Army definition.
Besides, I've read there have been two deaths in 80 years from legally
owned AR/SMG fire. Don't know the details.
Some SWAT has AR/SMG, but I haven't read of them using full auto.
The cops have many more constraints than the military, and SWAT members
are trained much better than the typical grunt.

Califbill August 21st 14 04:39 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?


Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...


Ha!

KC August 21st 14 04:45 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/2014 11:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...


Ha!


Ha nothing, I asked a guy a question, he called me names... how hard is
that?

Mr. Luddite August 22nd 14 12:52 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/2014 11:45 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to
watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same
kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...


Ha!


Ha nothing, I asked a guy a question, he called me names... how hard is
that?



Not so. Another of your re-writes.

You asked:

"In all seriousness, why do you watch MNNBC? Is it for the entertainment
like here? Or do you think you seriously get "news" there?"

To which I responded:

"In all seriousness why the hell do you care what I watch? Or, more to
the point, what I watch is none of your business. I watch a lot of news
and political commentary including, sometimes, Fox News."

You then responded with:

"It was a serious question, sorry about your penis dick...."

To which I replied:

"You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,
paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or not."

To which you followed up by making sure I know that you think I am an
asshole, etc.

So, who initiated the name calling?




F*O*A*D August 22nd 14 12:54 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/14 7:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:45 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite
wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to
watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same
kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...

Ha!


Ha nothing, I asked a guy a question, he called me names... how hard is
that?



Not so. Another of your re-writes.

You asked:

"In all seriousness, why do you watch MNNBC? Is it for the entertainment
like here? Or do you think you seriously get "news" there?"

To which I responded:

"In all seriousness why the hell do you care what I watch? Or, more to
the point, what I watch is none of your business. I watch a lot of news
and political commentary including, sometimes, Fox News."

You then responded with:

"It was a serious question, sorry about your penis dick...."

To which I replied:

"You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,
paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or not."

To which you followed up by making sure I know that you think I am an
asshole, etc.

So, who initiated the name calling?




You have a "penis dick"?

Or is a comma missing?


[email protected] August 22nd 14 01:06 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:52:13 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

To which you followed up by making sure I know that you think I am an

asshole, etc.



So, who initiated the name calling?


But you ARE an asshole.

[email protected] August 22nd 14 01:07 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:54:49 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:

You have a "penis dick"?



So do you, and donnie is ALWAYS sucking on it, like a soother.

KC August 22nd 14 04:52 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/21/2014 7:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:45 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite
wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to
watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same
kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...

Ha!


Ha nothing, I asked a guy a question, he called me names... how hard is
that?



Not so. Another of your re-writes.

You asked:

"In all seriousness, why do you watch MNNBC? Is it for the entertainment
like here? Or do you think you seriously get "news" there?"

To which I responded:

"In all seriousness why the hell do you care what I watch? Or, more to
the point, what I watch is none of your business. I watch a lot of news
and political commentary including, sometimes, Fox News."

You then responded with:

"It was a serious question, sorry about your penis dick...."

To which I replied:

"You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,
paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or not."

To which you followed up by making sure I know that you think I am an
asshole, etc.

So, who initiated the name calling?




Did I ask a question? Did you call a name? Seriously Dick, get over it..
You ain't gonna' shoot nobody here :)

[email protected] August 22nd 14 07:40 AM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:52:03 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:

Did I ask a question? Did you call a name? Seriously Dick, get over it..

You ain't gonna' shoot nobody here :)


Unless, like krause...he shoots off his big mouth.

F*O*A*D August 22nd 14 01:25 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/22/14 8:29 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

Seriously, Scotty, if that were Harry's response he'd win the 'tap dancing' award. You started the
name calling. Amen.



So, I'm still always on your mind, eh, John the Racist?

Poco Loco August 22nd 14 01:29 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:52:03 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/21/2014 7:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:45 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 11:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 1:57 AM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/21/2014 12:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 1:31 PM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 3:22 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite
wrote:

You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,

paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to
watch or
not.


I'm sure he's real scared of a zero like you.


Only cause he carries guns, and I am positive he has the same
kind of
daydreams of being a hero, harry does...

Why don't you two mop heads knock it off.


Knock what off?

Showing off both your paranoia and lack of thought!


I am not the one calling names and looking to fight...

Ha!


Ha nothing, I asked a guy a question, he called me names... how hard is
that?



Not so. Another of your re-writes.

You asked:

"In all seriousness, why do you watch MNNBC? Is it for the entertainment
like here? Or do you think you seriously get "news" there?"

To which I responded:

"In all seriousness why the hell do you care what I watch? Or, more to
the point, what I watch is none of your business. I watch a lot of news
and political commentary including, sometimes, Fox News."

You then responded with:

"It was a serious question, sorry about your penis dick...."

To which I replied:

"You were given a serious response. I don't need a foul-mouthed,
paranoid, hot-headed little twerp advising me as to what to watch or not."

To which you followed up by making sure I know that you think I am an
asshole, etc.

So, who initiated the name calling?




Did I ask a question? Did you call a name? Seriously Dick, get over it..
You ain't gonna' shoot nobody here :)


Seriously, Scotty, if that were Harry's response he'd win the 'tap dancing' award. You started the
name calling. Amen.


True North[_2_] August 22nd 14 01:38 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
FOAD

" So, I'm still always on your mind, eh, John the Racist? "


If it's not you, it's my Highlander.
Johnny needs a new hobby he won't keep up.

F*O*A*D August 22nd 14 01:51 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/22/14 8:38 AM, True North wrote:
FOAD

" So, I'm still always on your mind, eh, John the Racist?"


If it's not you, it's my Highlander.
Johnny needs a new hobby he won't keep up.

Just yesterday, he was pimping gun sales.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d August 22nd 14 03:18 PM

What could possibly go wrong?
 
On 8/22/2014 12:40 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:52:03 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:

Did I ask a question? Did you call a name? Seriously Dick, get over it..

You ain't gonna' shoot nobody here :)


Unless, like krause...he shoots off his big mouth.


Enough out of you, Shirley.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson


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