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On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric

I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

F*O*A*D

On 7/28/14, 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:44:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric

I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.

My dad had a lever action Winchester carbine, but I don't remember
anything else about it.

Poco Loco

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:02:26 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:44:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric

I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.

This is the one I have:

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...03c&mid=534199

Wayne.B

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:02:26 -0400, wrote:

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.

===

Why do you say that? The market is doing fairly well but there is no
sign yet of frothy speculation. Watch interest rates. When they
start to rise, that will be the end of the party. Meanwhile the
economy is showing signs of improvement and that will most likely keep
things rolling for a while longer. A sure sign that it's time to sell
is when you start to hear your friends and neighbors talking about how
much they have made in the stock market.

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