http://tinyurl.com/k3a6w6t

Of course, that's not as awesome as my Henry and my Winchester, both lever action and both made in
the US, not Italian junk.

Johnny, y'all sure do seem to thrive on this agitating, irritating and instigating routine of yours.

On 7/28/14, 8:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/k3a6w6t

Of course, that's not as awesome as my Henry and my Winchester, both lever action and both made in
the US, not Italian junk.



Gee...some of the old Winchesters were very nice, especially when they
were manufactured in New Haven. The new Winchester clones, made in Italy
by Uberti and Chiappa, are of significantly higher quality than the old
Winchester-manufactured lever action firearms, and at least equal if not
better in fit and finish than the Japanese Winchesters.
The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

Here's a factory tour vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9PcueBrsUw

I test fired a couple of Henry lever action rifles, one in .357 MAG and
the other a .22LR kid rifle. I thought they were nice, but the .357 MAG
rifle seemed awfully heavy to me, at least two pounds heavier than my
Chiappa .357 MAG saddle ring carbine, and I didn't at all like the way
the Henry loaded, down the magazine tube from the muzzle end of the
rifle. The action was smooth, though. I might have bought one, but for
the weight and the "non traditional" way it loaded.

This is the Chiappa model I got:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRuMkxhNFTI

And yes, the ejected casings do achieve low-earth orbit.

On 7/28/14, 8:21 AM, True North wrote:
Johnny, y'all sure do seem to thrive on this agitating, irritating and instigating routine of yours.



It's all he has. It's not as if he can get laid.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Johnny, y'all sure do seem to thrive on this agitating, irritating and instigating routine of yours.

Y'all ever hear of Tweedledum and Tweedledumber? Think on it and hush.

On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric



I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

On 7/28/14, 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:44:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric



I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.


My dad had a lever action Winchester carbine, but I don't remember
anything else about it.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:02:26 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:44:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/28/14, 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The Italian clones exactly duplicate the older Winchesters in terms of
dimensions, screws and bolts, fitments, et cetera, but are turned out on
high quality computer aided machinery.

I am surprised they are not metric



I was, too, but they are not metric. Someone at Chiappa here told me
they got ahold of blueprints, drawings, whatever, had their engineers
upgrade the steel to modern specs, and reverse-engineered everything.
The fit and finish on the metal parts is terrific, inside and out, the
action is smooth, and the wood stocks are beautiful. I was told the
barrels give significantly more accuracy than the made in the USA
Winchester barrels. I don't know much about the Japanese Winchesters,
other than they were not available when I bought my Italian clone.
Everyone tells me, though, that the Japanese Winchesters are top-drawer,
too.

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.

This is the one I have:

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...03c&mid=534199

True North wrote:
Johnny, y'all sure do seem to thrive on this agitating, irritating and
instigating routine of yours.

Look at what you replied against a mundane post. What the **** you thrive
on?

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:02:26 -0400, wrote:

I have not had a desire to own a LE Winchester, at least not since I
was a kid but if I bought one I think I would want a collectible "made
in New Haven" one.
These days it is probably a better investment than stocks.
The crash is coming, certainly a big correction anyway.

===

Why do you say that? The market is doing fairly well but there is no
sign yet of frothy speculation. Watch interest rates. When they
start to rise, that will be the end of the party. Meanwhile the
economy is showing signs of improvement and that will most likely keep
things rolling for a while longer. A sure sign that it's time to sell
is when you start to hear your friends and neighbors talking about how
much they have made in the stock market.