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On 7/25/2014 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha

Harry's state has more low life that need murdering.

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:58:56 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/25/2014 1:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 3:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM,
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I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or
keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.


I don't have any resistance to serious gun regulations. I don't think
current gun regulations generally are nearly strict enough, and I live
in a state considered to have fairly strict gun regulations. The
neighboring state of Virginia, sadly, has extremely lax gun regulations,
especially as they pertain to private sale and transfer of firearms.


There are enough gun regulations on the books to deal with the criminal
element. Liberal judges are preventing justice from being done.


I'm waiting for his response to Tim's post. Should be enlightening, as are most of Krause's posts.


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On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010
as Maryland (293)?

Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.

There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss
the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"
and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia
has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone
can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.


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On 7/25/2014 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Cause there are too many assholes like krause there..
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On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha






Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.



Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.


"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?
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On 7/25/14, 8:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:25:59 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ?
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010
as Maryland (293)?

Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?


There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss
the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"
and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia
has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone
can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.


All of those sales are illegal. Do you think that more laws would fix
it?


Are they? Apparently sales between individuals in Virginia are not
regulated. When I sold my SIG some years ago to a Virginia buyer, I
called the Virginia state police and was told point blank they didn't care.

This was the Virginia law a few years ago:


http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm

What are the laws concerning the private sale of a handgun?

To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard
information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm
was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make,
model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a
handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs.
Additionally, Virginia’s handgun purchase limitation applies in private
transactions. Refer to http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Mul ...
chase.shtm for additional information on multiple handgun purchases.
Should the firearm ever be located at a crime scene, trace of the
firearm will determine the licensed dealer who last sold the firearm and
will identify the last buyer of the firearm. To have your name removed
from this process, you may consider placing your firearm on consignment
with a licensed dealer. This will also ensure that the firearm is
transferred only to a lawfully eligible individual.


Read mo
http://vagunforum.net/virginia-laws/...#ixzz38WztUrc4

You can be sure the non-dealers selling out of the back of their cars at
Virginia gun shows aren't verifying the statehood of their buyers beyond
asking whether they are residents of Virginia. It's not as if there is a
form.

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