On 7/12/14, 12:36 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

===

Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

That is typically not paper target shooting, it is steel "knock
down/spin around" targets and it is usually a "combat course" (or
hunting type shooting with rifles), simulating shooting some kind of
flesh.
Most (pistol) paper target shooting is done with low powered center
fire ammo or the trusty old .22rf.




I shoot paper targets, steel targets, 2 liter soda pop bottles, et
cetera, with my revolver. I had no idea you and w'hine were the arbiters
of what is and is not target shooting. Targets are targets.

Oh, wait...*you* think combat course shooting at targets is not target
shooting.

That's a giggle.

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last year for no reason.

On 7/12/14, 12:42 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:44:10 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

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Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

I used to like shooting my .357, when I still shot a lot. But rarely with a
magnum load. Light load 38's.

Same here. I was reloading 148gr wad cutters with about 2.5 gr of
Bullseye. That is a very pleasant load to shoot that provides
excellent accuracy.


I don't shoot non-jacketed bullets. Too messy. The .38 specials are
ok...I have some and shoot them, but they tend to leave a carbon residue
in the chambers near and at the front of the cylinder. That means more
time cleaning. The .38 specials feel like .22LR rounds in my
revolver...the .357 mags feel like 9 mm. Perhaps you need a heavier
revolver with a 6" barrel and full underlug. Makes a big difference.
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Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
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last year for no reason.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.

On 7/12/14, 9:56 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.


You, on the other hand, probably need a seeing eye dog to point your
hand in the direction of the targets.




--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

On 7/12/2014 6:33 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 7:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother
in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot
are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has
flesh and blood.


They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful,
but
definitely a large caliber.


.357 rounds are about the same diameter as 9mm rounds. 9mm is available
with 147 grain and larger bullets. I shoot 125 grain and 158 grain .357.
It's not a large caliber round. I don't shoot .45 caliber.


Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt



He is not shooting .357 magnum rounds. He is shooting very light loads.
Probably light for even .38 special. Little kick in the Ruger.


Gee, Bilious, just what *is* a .357 mag round, in your typically
uninformed opinion?

I didn't see a "crawl" along the bottom of the vid indicating what
powder and how much was being used, along with the bullet weight. I
shoot standard, manufactured .357 Mag target loads, with 158 grain
bullets. They *are* .357 magnum rounds. There's very little recoil or
muzzle flip with my revolver. I do have some special self-defense rounds
with a lighter grain bullet, but I don't use them for target shooting.

This is yet another of those subjects about which you don't know your
ass from a hole in the ground.

Krause fancies himself as a small arms expert. Doubt his book learnin
makes him a good shooter though. What he does well is produce hot air.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/12/2014 6:37 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/12/14, 12:36 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh
and
blood.

===

Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

That is typically not paper target shooting, it is steel "knock
down/spin around" targets and it is usually a "combat course" (or
hunting type shooting with rifles), simulating shooting some kind of
flesh.
Most (pistol) paper target shooting is done with low powered center
fire ammo or the trusty old .22rf.




I shoot paper targets, steel targets, 2 liter soda pop bottles, et
cetera, with my revolver. I had no idea you and w'hine were the arbiters
of what is and is not target shooting. Targets are targets.

Oh, wait...*you* think combat course shooting at targets is not target
shooting.

That's a giggle.

None of those targets require a 357 or 45 round to produce a noise,
movement or damage. BTW, In the military it's called target practice.
Happy practice killing to you Mr. WAFA.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/12/2014 7:02 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The .38 specials feel like .22LR rounds in my revolver...the .357 mags
feel like 9 mm. Perhaps you need a heavier revolver with a 6" barrel and
full underlug. Makes a big difference.
--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason

Sounds like you are ready to move up to a 686. Keep saving those nickles
and dimes. You'll get there some day.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:25:37 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

Krause fancies himself as a small arms expert. Doubt his book learnin
makes him a good shooter though. What he does well is produce hot air.

===

Which would be OK if it weren't for the sewage smell.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:56:17 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.

===

Oh absolutely, the Kimber 45 is a very sweet gun. Let me know if you
ever want to sell it. On the other hand, a 357 magnum, unless
downloaded to low velocity 38s, is a very unpleasant to shoot (except
Harry's of course).

On 7/12/2014 9:19 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/12/14, 9:56 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh
and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.


You, on the other hand, probably need a seeing eye dog to point your
hand in the direction of the targets.




Your 15 year old lasiked eyes have suffered further hardening since your
treatment. What's your vision now? What do you reach for first when you
get up to empty your ostamy bag, your glasses or your walker?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson