If you bought a new boat in the size range he's talking about, the dealer would try to sell you an outboard in the 100 hp range.
My 25 Johnson was fine on the 14.5 foot Yukon open aluminum boat and my current 16.5 foot Fish and Ski runs well with the 60 hp Big Foot although I could have maxed out at a 75 hp.

On 7/7/14, 6:52 AM, True North wrote:
If you bought a new boat in the size range he's talking about, the dealer would try to sell you an outboard in the 100 hp range.
My 25 Johnson was fine on the 14.5 foot Yukon open aluminum boat and my current 16.5 foot Fish and Ski runs well with the 60 hp Big Foot although I could have maxed out at a 75 hp.


Weight distribution is also important. If Snotty is squatting in the
stern of that boat he wants to build, along with the outboard, two fuel
tanks and a battery, the boat will ride bow high at low speeds, and take
a long time to settle down on a plane, if it planes. I wonder how much
that boat will weigh.

--
Ted Cruz & Herman Cain in 2016...
Because 'mericans deserve crazy.

On 7/7/2014 5:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/7/2014 1:33 AM, KC wrote:
On 7/6/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:32:26 -0400, KC wrote:

Is pitch something like bow rise?

Yeah, that's what I am trying to figure... I have a program that will
show me waterlines and some simulations but I need to know about how
much bow rise I might have...

===

Most designs like that tend to ride fairly flat at full planning speed
but it will depend a lot on speed and loading.


Thanks... as I looked at google today I am starting to get that idea...
I did increase the deadrise to 13 degrees today but gave the bow a bit
more lift too and if I go ahead and make a slightly forward mount to
keep the prop under the hull, it should stay even flatter... thanks
Wayne, I was hoping you would pipe in here, assuming you see a lot of
boats in that size range...


You seem to be discussing two different things. The term "bow lift" is
usually used to define how high the bow rises when the boat is at a
particular speed, with the max rise just before it comes up on a plane.

The way you are using "bow lift" in your question appears to be related
to the pitch of the hull in the basic design of the boat.

That's what it sounds like to me anyway.

When I say bow lift I am refering to exaggerated lifting strakes near
the bow to keep the bow higher in rough water... (hopefully)...

On 7/7/14, 8:16 AM, KC wrote:
On 7/7/2014 5:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/7/2014 1:33 AM, KC wrote:
On 7/6/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:32:26 -0400, KC wrote:

Is pitch something like bow rise?

Yeah, that's what I am trying to figure... I have a program that will
show me waterlines and some simulations but I need to know about how
much bow rise I might have...

===

Most designs like that tend to ride fairly flat at full planning speed
but it will depend a lot on speed and loading.


Thanks... as I looked at google today I am starting to get that idea...
I did increase the deadrise to 13 degrees today but gave the bow a bit
more lift too and if I go ahead and make a slightly forward mount to
keep the prop under the hull, it should stay even flatter... thanks
Wayne, I was hoping you would pipe in here, assuming you see a lot of
boats in that size range...


You seem to be discussing two different things. The term "bow lift" is
usually used to define how high the bow rises when the boat is at a
particular speed, with the max rise just before it comes up on a plane.

The way you are using "bow lift" in your question appears to be related
to the pitch of the hull in the basic design of the boat.

That's what it sounds like to me anyway.

When I say bow lift I am refering to exaggerated lifting strakes near
the bow to keep the bow higher in rough water... (hopefully)...



You're going to end up with an underpowered boat that if it does get up
on plane, pounds on small waves. Even a much heavier 20' fiberglass
center console boat with 18 to 20 degrees of deadrise at the stern and a
really sharp entry at the bow is likely to pound in rough water in Long
Island Sound at decent planing speeds. I'm assuming by "rough water,"
you mean a patch of one foot waves on a lake or river.

--
Ted Cruz & Herman Cain in 2016...
Because 'mericans deserve crazy.

True North wrote:
If you bought a new boat in the size range he's talking about, the dealer
would try to sell you an outboard in the 100 hp range.
My 25 Johnson was fine on the 14.5 foot Yukon open aluminum boat and my
current 16.5 foot Fish and Ski runs well with the 60 hp Big Foot although
I could have maxed out at a 75 hp.

You probably should not have a Big Foot on a 16.5 boat.

Really?
Maybe I should contact the manufacturer and my dealer to advise that Kalif Swill knows more than them.

On 7/8/2014 6:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
If you bought a new boat in the size range he's talking about, the dealer
would try to sell you an outboard in the 100 hp range.
My 25 Johnson was fine on the 14.5 foot Yukon open aluminum boat and my
current 16.5 foot Fish and Ski runs well with the 60 hp Big Foot although
I could have maxed out at a 75 hp.

You probably should not have a Big Foot on a 16.5 boat.


Hey, hey, hey now.. Stop that! He is going through UpKrauseAss syndrome
and he thinks his stuff is better than yours just because it doesn't get
used

True North wrote:
Really?
Maybe I should contact the manufacturer and my dealer to advise that
Kalif Swill knows more than them.

He probably had a big foot he needed to move.

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:01:10 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:

If you bought a new boat in the size range he's talking about, the dealer

would try to sell you an outboard in the 100 hp range.

My 25 Johnson was fine on the 14.5 foot Yukon open aluminum boat and my

current 16.5 foot Fish and Ski runs well with the 60 hp Big Foot although

I could have maxed out at a 75 hp.



You probably should not have a Big Foot on a 16.5 boat.

Remember: donnie is a fool, and will believe anything his Dealer says....just like the DUMBASS he is.

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:01:33 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:

Really?

Maybe I should contact the manufacturer and my dealer to advise that

Kalif Swill knows more than them.



He probably had a big foot he needed to move.

BINGO!!!! but donnie the dumbass wouldn't know that....too stupid.