Upstanding citizen
 

And gun dealer...

CUMMING, Ga. — A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement
officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and
a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried
to mount what the authorities described as a “frontal assault” on the
building.

Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.
Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a “Glock
armorer” who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed
Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff’s deputies that
briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a
battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a
hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.

“It was very close to being a major catastrophe,” Sheriff Piper said
at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance
tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made
public.

Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed
had been in the works for days.

According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday
morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires — an effort to
hinder the emergency response — and wanted to drive through the
building’s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year
veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had
tried to hit the man with his vehicle.

The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.
Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had
amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some
inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who
Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the
volley of bullets.

“He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,”
Sheriff Piper said. “The deputies actually took the time not just to
stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other
offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places
inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.”

Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and
plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the
courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.

“We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,” the
sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not
know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.

After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city
of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked
roads, and crime scene tape was visible.

Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx’s home into the night, and
Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.

Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration
more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the
sheriff’s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the
office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his
constitutional rights.

Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months
in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a
gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling
his case.

“I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding
of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with
whatever was going on,” said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had
dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.

The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.
Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more
bloodshed.

“It’d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,” the sheriff said.
“Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx’s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.”

Upstanding citizen
 

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
And gun dealer...



CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement

officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and

a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried

to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the

building.



Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.

Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock

armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed

Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that

briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a

battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a

hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.



�It was very close to being a major catastrophe,� Sheriff Piper said

at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance

tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made

public.



Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed

had been in the works for days.



According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday

morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires � an effort to

hinder the emergency response � and wanted to drive through the

building�s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year

veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had

tried to hit the man with his vehicle.



The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.

Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had

amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some

inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who

Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the

volley of bullets.



�He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,�

Sheriff Piper said. �The deputies actually took the time not just to

stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other

offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places

inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.�



Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and

plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the

courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.



�We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,� the

sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not

know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.



After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city

of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked

roads, and crime scene tape was visible.



Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx�s home into the night, and

Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.



Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration

more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the

sheriff�s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the

office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his

constitutional rights.



Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months

in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a

gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling

his case.



�I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding

of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with

whatever was going on,� said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had

dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.



The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.

Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more

bloodshed.



�It�d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,� the sheriff said.

�Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx�s intention was to get

in that front door and take hostages.�

Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
And gun dealer...



CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement

officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and

a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried

to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the

building.



Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.

Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock

armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed

Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that

briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a

battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a

hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.


Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...



Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.

And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican
political party:

The man and woman suspected in Sunday’s Las Vegas shopping center attack
that left two police officers and a shopper dead often talked about
killing officers and didn’t believe in the government, a neighbor says.

“They always talked about murdering cops,� neighbor Krista Koch told ABC
affiliate KTNV-TV.

"They were going to kill as many officers as they can, and then they
were going to do away with themselves."

Investigators searched an apartment overnight believed to be related to
the shooting, trying to uncover clues about the midday attack. Police
are looking into the couple’s links to the white supremacy movement
after finding swastika symbols during their initial investigation,
according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

http://tinyurl.com/me8yjsm

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:42:24 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:

And gun dealer...







CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement



officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and



a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried



to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the



building.







Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.



Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock



armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed



Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that



briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a



battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a



hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.





Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...







Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.



And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican

political party:



"...and your Teapublican political party:..."

MY?

Harry you're projecting as usual

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 04:53:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:42:24 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:

And gun dealer...







CUMMING, Ga. ? A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement



officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and



a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried



to mount what the authorities described as a ?frontal assault? on the



building.







Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.



Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a ?Glock



armorer? who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed



Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff?s deputies that



briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a



battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a



hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.





Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...







Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.



And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican

political party:



"...and your Teapublican political party:..."

MY?

Harry you're projecting as usual

I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

That's what they do, you know.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 7:53 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:42:24 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:

And gun dealer...







CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement



officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and



a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried



to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the



building.







Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.



Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock



armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed



Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that



briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a



battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a



hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.





Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...







Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.



And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican

political party:



"...and your Teapublican political party:..."

MY?

Harry you're projecting as usual


Oh? Thought you were a Teapublican...the former Republican party.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.



If that's what you think, you're dumber than I thought.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

And gun dealer...

CUMMING, Ga. ? A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement
officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and
a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried
to mount what the authorities described as a ?frontal assault? on the
building.

Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.
Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a ?Glock
armorer? who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed
Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff?s deputies that
briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a
battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a
hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.

?It was very close to being a major catastrophe,? Sheriff Piper said
at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance
tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made
public.

Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed
had been in the works for days.

According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday
morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires ? an effort to
hinder the emergency response ? and wanted to drive through the
building?s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year
veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had
tried to hit the man with his vehicle.

The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.
Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had
amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some
inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who
Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the
volley of bullets.

?He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,?
Sheriff Piper said. ?The deputies actually took the time not just to
stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other
offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places
inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.?

Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and
plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the
courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.

?We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,? the
sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not
know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.

After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city
of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked
roads, and crime scene tape was visible.

Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx?s home into the night, and
Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.

Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration
more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the
sheriff?s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the
office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his
constitutional rights.

Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months
in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a
gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling
his case.

?I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding
of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with
whatever was going on,? said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had
dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.

The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.
Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more
bloodshed.

?It?d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,? the sheriff said.
?Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx?s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.?

One AR-15 and two handguns constitutes an arsenal?


To a gun grabber, yes...

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 10:40 AM, KC wrote:
On 6/9/2014 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

And gun dealer...

CUMMING, Ga. ? A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement
officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and
a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried
to mount what the authorities described as a ?frontal assault? on the
building.

Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.
Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a ?Glock
armorer? who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed
Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff?s deputies that
briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a
battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a
hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.

?It was very close to being a major catastrophe,? Sheriff Piper said
at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance
tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made
public.

Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed
had been in the works for days.

According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday
morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires ? an effort to
hinder the emergency response ? and wanted to drive through the
building?s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year
veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had
tried to hit the man with his vehicle.

The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.
Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had
amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some
inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who
Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the
volley of bullets.

?He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,?
Sheriff Piper said. ?The deputies actually took the time not just to
stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other
offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places
inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.?

Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and
plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the
courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.

?We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,? the
sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not
know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.

After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city
of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked
roads, and crime scene tape was visible.

Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx?s home into the night, and
Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.

Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration
more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the
sheriff?s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the
office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his
constitutional rights.

Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months
in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a
gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling
his case.

?I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding
of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with
whatever was going on,? said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had
dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.

The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.
Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more
bloodshed.

?It?d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,? the sheriff said.
?Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx?s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.?

One AR-15 and two handguns constitutes an arsenal?


To a gun grabber, yes...


Mr. Marx had an assortment of firearms, grenades, and undefined
explosive devices. The word “arsenal” is a fair descriptor to use on an
individual so armed. But of course, you two morons missed the point of
the news article, eh? What a surprise.

What firearms do the local police allow you to have, Ingersoll? A
slingshot and a peashooter? Oh, and how is your blown-out knee? Doing
any competitive motorbike racing this season?

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:06:37 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

?It?d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,? the sheriff said.
?Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx?s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.?

One AR-15 and two handguns constitutes an arsenal?

Hell, that's less than half of Krause's arsenal!!

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:17:34 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.



If that's what you think, you're dumber than I thought.

I can't imagine such a thing.

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.

Upstanding citizen
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
And gun dealer...



CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement

officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and

a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried

to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the

building.



Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.

Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock

armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed

Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that

briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a

battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a

hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.


Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...



Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.

And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican political party:

The man and woman suspected in Sunday’s Las Vegas shopping center attack
that left two police officers and a shopper dead often talked about
killing officers and didn’t believe in the government, a neighbor says.

“They always talked about murdering cops,� neighbor Krista Koch told ABC affiliate KTNV-TV.

"They were going to kill as many officers as they can, and then they were
going to do away with themselves."

Investigators searched an apartment overnight believed to be related to
the shooting, trying to uncover clues about the midday attack. Police are
looking into the couple’s links to the white supremacy movement after
finding swastika symbols during their initial investigation, according to
the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

http://tinyurl.com/me8yjsm


Sounds like they were Bill Ayres followers.

Upstanding citizen
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 10:40 AM, KC wrote:
On 6/9/2014 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

And gun dealer...

CUMMING, Ga. ? A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement
officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and
a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried
to mount what the authorities described as a ?frontal assault? on the
building.

Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.
Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a ?Glock
armorer? who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed
Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff?s deputies that
briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a
battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a
hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.

?It was very close to being a major catastrophe,? Sheriff Piper said
at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance
tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made
public.

Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed
had been in the works for days.

According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday
morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires ? an effort to
hinder the emergency response ? and wanted to drive through the
building?s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year
veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had
tried to hit the man with his vehicle.

The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.
Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had
amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some
inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who
Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the
volley of bullets.

?He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,?
Sheriff Piper said. ?The deputies actually took the time not just to
stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other
offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places
inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.?

Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and
plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the
courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.

?We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,? the
sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not
know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.

After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city
of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked
roads, and crime scene tape was visible.

Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx?s home into the night, and
Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.

Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration
more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the
sheriff?s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the
office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his
constitutional rights.

Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months
in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a
gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling
his case.

?I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding
of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with
whatever was going on,? said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had
dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.

The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.
Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more
bloodshed.

?It?d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,? the sheriff said.
?Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx?s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.?

One AR-15 and two handguns constitutes an arsenal?


To a gun grabber, yes...


Mr. Marx had an assortment of firearms, grenades, and undefined explosive
devices. The word “arsenal� is a fair descriptor to use on an individual
so armed. But of course, you two morons missed the point of the news
article, eh? What a surprise.

What firearms do the local police allow you to have, Ingersoll? A
slingshot and a peashooter? Oh, and how is your blown-out knee? Doing any
competitive motorbike racing this season?


If he only had 3, was not an arsenal. At least in California, the legal
definition is 5 firearms.

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

Upstanding citizen
 

On Monday, June 9, 2014 5:07:04 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:


And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican



political party:







"...and your Teapublican political party:..."



MY?



Harry you're projecting as usual





Oh? Thought you were a Teapublican...the former Republican party.



Harry, that's what you get for thinking...

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 5:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 5:07:04 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:


And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican



political party:







"...and your Teapublican political party:..."



MY?



Harry you're projecting as usual





Oh? Thought you were a Teapublican...the former Republican party.



Harry, that's what you get for thinking...

Thinking confuses him.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 5:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 5:07:04 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:


And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican



political party:







"...and your Teapublican political party:..."



MY?



Harry you're projecting as usual





Oh? Thought you were a Teapublican...the former Republican party.



Harry, that's what you get for thinking...


harry just wanted to use the new word he learned on MSNBC this morning...

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/2014 2:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 7:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:20:03 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
And gun dealer...



CUMMING, Ga. � A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement

officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and

a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried

to mount what the authorities described as a �frontal assault� on the

building.



Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.

Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a �Glock

armorer� who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed

Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff�s deputies that

briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a

battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a

hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.


Wanna beet he was a NRA life member and a Republican too...



Well, of course he was, perhaps the Teapublican branch.

And, of course, there were these members of the NRA and your Teapublican political party:

The man and woman suspected in Sunday’s Las Vegas shopping center attack
that left two police officers and a shopper dead often talked about
killing officers and didn’t believe in the government, a neighbor says.

“They always talked about murdering cops,� neighbor Krista Koch told ABC affiliate KTNV-TV.

"They were going to kill as many officers as they can, and then they were
going to do away with themselves."

Investigators searched an apartment overnight believed to be related to
the shooting, trying to uncover clues about the midday attack. Police are
looking into the couple’s links to the white supremacy movement after
finding swastika symbols during their initial investigation, according to
the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

http://tinyurl.com/me8yjsm


Sounds like they were Bill Ayres followers.


Definitely Obummer voters...

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 2:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

The last time they agreed to that scenario, they got the tax increase as
well as a spending increase.

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:15:14 -0700, Bill McKee
wrote:

On 6/9/14, 2:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

The last time they agreed to that scenario, they got the tax increase as
well as a spending increase.


It was a hypothetical question, not based on what happened last time.

These are the same blithering idiots who were screaming about our
mounting debt.

I'd be in favor of pragmatic cuts where we can afford them but I don't
think it should be in education or feeding kids that are starving.

How about we stop building tanks and start building solar panels?

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:06:35 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 10:40 AM, KC wrote:
On 6/9/2014 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

And gun dealer...

CUMMING, Ga. ? A man was shot to death on Friday by law enforcement
officials after he brought an arsenal, including an assault rifle and
a large supply of ammunition, to the county courthouse here and tried
to mount what the authorities described as a ?frontal assault? on the
building.

Sheriff Duane K. Piper of Forsyth County said that the man, Dennis R.
Marx, who had described himself in a court document as a ?Glock
armorer? who took part in gun shows across the South, was killed
Friday during a three-minute firefight with sheriff?s deputies that
briefly transformed part of this quiet Georgia city into a
battleground. Mr. Marx had been scheduled to appear in court for a
hearing about a pending case involving drug and weapons charges.

?It was very close to being a major catastrophe,? Sheriff Piper said
at a Friday afternoon news conference after reviewing surveillance
tapes of the confrontation, which he said would eventually be made
public.

Sheriff Piper described a chilling plot that the authorities believed
had been in the works for days.

According to the sheriff, Mr. Marx drove to the courthouse on Friday
morning, set down spikes intended to puncture tires ? an effort to
hinder the emergency response ? and wanted to drive through the
building?s front entrance. An unidentified deputy sheriff, a 25-year
veteran of the force, was outside, and Sheriff Piper said Mr. Marx had
tried to hit the man with his vehicle.

The deputy was wounded in the leg as he exchanged gunfire with Mr.
Marx, who fired from his vehicle, where the sheriff said he had
amassed smoke and tear gas grenades. Other deputies, including some
inside the courthouse, quickly joined the gunfight, and Mr. Marx, who
Sheriff Piper said was carrying explosive devices, was killed in the
volley of bullets.

?He was shooting into the courthouse; they were shooting back out,?
Sheriff Piper said. ?The deputies actually took the time not just to
stand right there at the front door. They actually went into other
offices and broke windows and were shooting from different places
inside the courthouse to get different angles on him.?

Investigators said they believed that Mr. Marx, who had water and
plastic handcuffs in his vehicle, had intended to take control of the
courthouse. He also had two handguns, Sheriff Piper said.

?We have to assume that he was there to occupy the courthouse,? the
sheriff said, although he acknowledged that the authorities did not
know whether Mr. Marx was after a specific person.

After the shootout, the area surrounding the courthouse in this city
of about 5,600 was closed to traffic. Law enforcement vehicles blocked
roads, and crime scene tape was visible.

Officials were planning to search Mr. Marx?s home into the night, and
Sheriff Piper said investigators had found explosives on the property.

Mr. Marx, who worked for the Transportation Security Administration
more than a decade ago, had a history of interactions with the
sheriff?s office, and he filed a federal lawsuit last year against the
office over a 2011 raid on his home that he said had violated his
constitutional rights.

Ann T. Shafer, a lawyer who represented Mr. Marx for about six months
in his criminal proceeding, told WXIA-TV that her former client was a
gun trader who had made veiled threats to her while she was handling
his case.

?I thought he was, at times, a little not stable in his understanding
of the law or the consequences, and always seemed dissatisfied with
whatever was going on,? said Ms. Shafer, who said that Mr. Marx had
dismissed her because he was unsatisfied with her work.

The wounded deputy was being treated and was expected to survive.
Sheriff Piper said the deputy was responsible for preventing more
bloodshed.

?It?d be a guess to think how many lives he saved,? the sheriff said.
?Had he not engaged him right there, Mr. Marx?s intention was to get
in that front door and take hostages.?

One AR-15 and two handguns constitutes an arsenal?


To a gun grabber, yes...


Mr. Marx had an assortment of firearms, grenades, and undefined explosive
devices. The word “arsenal” is a fair descriptor to use on an individual
so armed. But of course, you two morons missed the point of the news
article, eh? What a surprise.

What firearms do the local police allow you to have, Ingersoll? A
slingshot and a peashooter? Oh, and how is your blown-out knee? Doing any
competitive motorbike racing this season?


If he only had 3, was not an arsenal. At least in California, the legal
definition is 5 firearms.

What comprises "an arsenal?" 3 or more weapons and lots of ammo
enough or does it need to be 5 weapons, or 10 weapons to be considered
an arsenal?


"When Marx arrived at the courthouse, he started throwing out gas
grenades and smoke grenades, most of which the sheriff said were
homemade.

“He came there with the purpose of occupying the courthouse,” said
Piper, adding that Marx never made it inside the building.

In addition to the explosives, Piper said Marx had assault rifles and
several other weapons. The arsenal included CS tear gas and smoke
grenades to obscure vision, assault rifles, flex ties and “lots of
ammunition.”

According to Sheriff’s Maj. Rick Doyle, authorities believe Marx had
legal permits to possess the firearms used during the assault.

“Apparently, he’s a gun dealer and trader,” Doyle said."

Upstanding citizen
 

jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:15:14 -0700, Bill McKee
wrote:

On 6/9/14, 2:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

The last time they agreed to that scenario, they got the tax increase as
well as a spending increase.


It was a hypothetical question, not based on what happened last time.

These are the same blithering idiots who were screaming about our
mounting debt.

I'd be in favor of pragmatic cuts where we can afford them but I don't
think it should be in education or feeding kids that are starving.

How about we stop building tanks and start building solar panels?

We are not stopping feeding kids. Why is the family not feeding the kids
with the welfare money they receive for those kids? Education? Since the
Federal government has taken control of education since 1974, creation of
the dept. Of education, why has education floundered? We spend more on
education per student than any other country in the world!

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:59:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:15:14 -0700, Bill McKee
wrote:

On 6/9/14, 2:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

The last time they agreed to that scenario, they got the tax increase as
well as a spending increase.


It was a hypothetical question, not based on what happened last time.

These are the same blithering idiots who were screaming about our
mounting debt.

I'd be in favor of pragmatic cuts where we can afford them but I don't
think it should be in education or feeding kids that are starving.

How about we stop building tanks and start building solar panels?

Your guy has been keeping us at war for how long now?

Upstanding citizen
 

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 23:08:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:06:35 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



What comprises "an arsenal?" 3 or more weapons and lots of ammo
enough or does it need to be 5 weapons, or 10 weapons to be considered
an arsenal?

Ask Krause. He's got a bunch.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 7:47 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 23:08:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:06:35 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



What comprises "an arsenal?" 3 or more weapons and lots of ammo
enough or does it need to be 5 weapons, or 10 weapons to be considered
an arsenal?

Ask Krause. He's got a bunch.

The answer always is one more than Krause the louse has.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 6:20 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

Those weren't post holes you posted pictures of?

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:59:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:15:14 -0700, Bill McKee
wrote:

On 6/9/14, 2:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:08:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/9/14, 8:02 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 04:20:03 -0700, jps wrote:

You missed these:


Herring thinks these posts of his justify the thousands and thousands of
gun murders in this country each year. Moron.

The conservative brain. When asked if they'd trade $1 of tax
increases for $10 of budget cuts, the Republican candidates said "NO!"

The last time they agreed to that scenario, they got the tax increase as
well as a spending increase.


It was a hypothetical question, not based on what happened last time.

These are the same blithering idiots who were screaming about our
mounting debt.

I'd be in favor of pragmatic cuts where we can afford them but I don't
think it should be in education or feeding kids that are starving.

How about we stop building tanks and start building solar panels?

Your guy has been keeping us at war for how long now?

Since 2009.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 9:11 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/10/2014 6:20 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts
here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting
pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

Those weren't post holes you posted pictures of?

I think they were. In fact he wrote a great web review to the company
that did the work to, it's out the)

Upstanding citizen
 

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:11:31 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/10/2014 6:20 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

Those weren't post holes you posted pictures of?

You're on a roll today!

When's your next camping trip. How's that Class A working out? My last trip cost me another TV
antenna. My rig came with this:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...em-white/56484

Just a small branch hanging down can catch it and snap the plastic at the base. When I say small,
I'm talking 1/2" or so. I'm thinking of going with one of these:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-antenna/50011

These look like they'd function pretty well on a trawler or houseboat also. (Boating content)

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 9:27 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:11:31 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/10/2014 6:20 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

Those weren't post holes you posted pictures of?

You're on a roll today!

When's your next camping trip. How's that Class A working out? My last trip cost me another TV
antenna. My rig came with this:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...em-white/56484

Just a small branch hanging down can catch it and snap the plastic at the base. When I say small,
I'm talking 1/2" or so. I'm thinking of going with one of these:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-antenna/50011

These look like they'd function pretty well on a trawler or houseboat also. (Boating content)

I have a Jack. You're right. They are fragile. I wonder why you haven't
been taking out AC units? I'll email you later.

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 7:12 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/10/2014 9:27 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:11:31 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/10/2014 6:20 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 1:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:19:21 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/9/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/9/14, 8:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:


I believe it's called 'attention seeking'.

You are referring, of course, to all your non-boating hobby posts
here,
right?


The biggest attention seeking move you ever made was posting
pictures of
your post holes. Sad, isn't it?

or responding to every post I make, hoping to get some attention.


You're delusional.

Those weren't post holes you posted pictures of?

You're on a roll today!

When's your next camping trip. How's that Class A working out? My last
trip cost me another TV
antenna. My rig came with this:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...em-white/56484


Just a small branch hanging down can catch it and snap the plastic at
the base. When I say small,
I'm talking 1/2" or so. I'm thinking of going with one of these:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-antenna/50011


These look like they'd function pretty well on a trawler or houseboat
also. (Boating content)

I have a Jack. You're right. They are fragile. I wonder why you haven't
been taking out AC units? I'll email you later.


If you are withing 20-25 miles of the transmitting tower, this super
duper antenna works splendidly for capturing HD broadcasts:

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ill12.png

Upstanding citizen
 

On 6/10/2014 8:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



If you are withing 20-25 miles of the transmitting tower, this super
duper antenna works splendidly for capturing HD broadcasts:

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ill12.png


I just tried an experiment for kicks.

I have a small, single pole antenna that I use on my receiver for FM
reception. It's half of an old rabbit ear antenna.

I hooked it up to my TV and did an autoscan. My house is probably
35-40 miles from the nearest transmitting antenna in Boston and the
single pole antenna is just sitting beside the TV. Autoscan found 7
digital channels.

Here's the antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/antenna.jpg


Here's channel 7 in Boston using the single pole antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel7.jpg

Here's channel 2 (PBS) in Boston (blur is due to slow camera shutter
speed. HD picture on TV is perfect):

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel2-2.jpg

Only goes to show that there's nothing magic about the revised and
modernized rabbit ears that are being marketed as "HD Antennas".

Upstanding citizen ..HA!
 

On 6/10/2014 9:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/10/2014 8:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



If you are withing 20-25 miles of the transmitting tower, this super
duper antenna works splendidly for capturing HD broadcasts:

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ill12.png


I just tried an experiment for kicks.

I have a small, single pole antenna that I use on my receiver for FM
reception. It's half of an old rabbit ear antenna.

I hooked it up to my TV and did an autoscan. My house is probably
35-40 miles from the nearest transmitting antenna in Boston and the
single pole antenna is just sitting beside the TV. Autoscan found 7
digital channels.

Here's the antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/antenna.jpg


Here's channel 7 in Boston using the single pole antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel7.jpg

Here's channel 2 (PBS) in Boston (blur is due to slow camera shutter
speed. HD picture on TV is perfect):

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel2-2.jpg

Only goes to show that there's nothing magic about the revised and
modernized rabbit ears that are being marketed as "HD Antennas".



As an afterthought I just did another experiment.

We have Comcast cable TV and I have a HD cable box also hooked up to
this TV. I put the box on channel 7 HD and then compared it's picture
to the same HD programming being broadcast and picked up by the little
single pole antenna. (Switched "input source" on TV back and forth
between the two).

The broadcast HD picture using the antenna is noticeably superior to the
Comcast cable HD picture. Much clearer, much more "HD" looking.

Comcast compresses HD signals in order to get all their "stuff" on a
cable. The broadcast signal is the way it's supposed to look.

Upstanding citizen ..HA!
 

On 6/10/2014 10:23 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/10/2014 9:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/10/2014 8:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



If you are withing 20-25 miles of the transmitting tower, this super
duper antenna works splendidly for capturing HD broadcasts:

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ill12.png


I just tried an experiment for kicks.

I have a small, single pole antenna that I use on my receiver for FM
reception. It's half of an old rabbit ear antenna.

I hooked it up to my TV and did an autoscan. My house is probably
35-40 miles from the nearest transmitting antenna in Boston and the
single pole antenna is just sitting beside the TV. Autoscan found 7
digital channels.

Here's the antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/antenna.jpg


Here's channel 7 in Boston using the single pole antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel7.jpg

Here's channel 2 (PBS) in Boston (blur is due to slow camera shutter
speed. HD picture on TV is perfect):

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel2-2.jpg

Only goes to show that there's nothing magic about the revised and
modernized rabbit ears that are being marketed as "HD Antennas".



As an afterthought I just did another experiment.

We have Comcast cable TV and I have a HD cable box also hooked up to
this TV. I put the box on channel 7 HD and then compared it's picture
to the same HD programming being broadcast and picked up by the little
single pole antenna. (Switched "input source" on TV back and forth
between the two).

The broadcast HD picture using the antenna is noticeably superior to the
Comcast cable HD picture. Much clearer, much more "HD" looking.

Comcast compresses HD signals in order to get all their "stuff" on a
cable. The broadcast signal is the way it's supposed to look.

During a cable outage we connected a 30 foot piece of cable to the HD -
In and scanned for channels. We picked up about 20 or so. When I hooked
the old rabbit ears up we got about 25 and when I bought the "HD"
antenna we started to get about 60 or more channels. This included the -
1, -2, -3 and -4 channels for each old timey channel.

The OTA quality puts cable to shame.

I don't believe there is any difference between uhf/vhf antenna and a HD
antenna. They all use the same frequencies.

Upstanding citizen ..HA!
 

On 6/11/2014 7:59 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/10/2014 10:23 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/10/2014 9:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/10/2014 8:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



If you are withing 20-25 miles of the transmitting tower, this super
duper antenna works splendidly for capturing HD broadcasts:

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ill12.png


I just tried an experiment for kicks.

I have a small, single pole antenna that I use on my receiver for FM
reception. It's half of an old rabbit ear antenna.

I hooked it up to my TV and did an autoscan. My house is probably
35-40 miles from the nearest transmitting antenna in Boston and the
single pole antenna is just sitting beside the TV. Autoscan found 7
digital channels.

Here's the antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/antenna.jpg


Here's channel 7 in Boston using the single pole antenna:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel7.jpg

Here's channel 2 (PBS) in Boston (blur is due to slow camera shutter
speed. HD picture on TV is perfect):

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Channel2-2.jpg

Only goes to show that there's nothing magic about the revised and
modernized rabbit ears that are being marketed as "HD Antennas".



As an afterthought I just did another experiment.

We have Comcast cable TV and I have a HD cable box also hooked up to
this TV. I put the box on channel 7 HD and then compared it's picture
to the same HD programming being broadcast and picked up by the little
single pole antenna. (Switched "input source" on TV back and forth
between the two).

The broadcast HD picture using the antenna is noticeably superior to the
Comcast cable HD picture. Much clearer, much more "HD" looking.

Comcast compresses HD signals in order to get all their "stuff" on a
cable. The broadcast signal is the way it's supposed to look.

During a cable outage we connected a 30 foot piece of cable to the HD -
In and scanned for channels. We picked up about 20 or so. When I hooked
the old rabbit ears up we got about 25 and when I bought the "HD"
antenna we started to get about 60 or more channels. This included the -
1, -2, -3 and -4 channels for each old timey channel.

The OTA quality puts cable to shame.

I don't believe there is any difference between uhf/vhf antenna and a HD
antenna. They all use the same frequencies.


There isn't any difference other printing "High Definition" on the
packaging and upping the price.