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Transmission oil cooling
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 |
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Transmission oil cooling
On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 I looked at them out of idle curiosity a few years ago. Consensus is they are a waste of money and don't reduce transmission fluid temp at all once it is up to operating temp. All they do is cause it to take a little longer to get up to temp (which is not necessarily a good thing) and a little longer to cool off when the truck is shut off. They don't add that much more capacity over what your stock pan holds. |
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Transmission oil cooling
On Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:04:06 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 I looked at them out of idle curiosity a few years ago. Consensus is they are a waste of money and don't reduce transmission fluid temp at all once it is up to operating temp. All they do is cause it to take a little longer to get up to temp (which is not necessarily a good thing) and a little longer to cool off when the truck is shut off. They don't add that much more capacity over what your stock pan holds. You are a fool. A cool tranny works far better, and last longer. Ask a Transmission Repair Man. Your statement shows you know little. |
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Transmission oil cooling
On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. |
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Transmission oil cooling
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Appreciated. It is the Allison. The book says 200F should be the max, but I've approached that several times just on I-95 - during stop and go traffic. But I've also read that 235 to 260 isn't unreasonable. I'll look into an auxiliary cooler, if they make one. The bigger pan increases capacity by 5 quarts. A friend just installed one. |
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#6
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Transmission oil cooling
On 5/24/2014 9:33 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Appreciated. It is the Allison. The book says 200F should be the max, but I've approached that several times just on I-95 - during stop and go traffic. But I've also read that 235 to 260 isn't unreasonable. I'll look into an auxiliary cooler, if they make one. The bigger pan increases capacity by 5 quarts. A friend just installed one. Just asked my bud on FB, he is a truck Guru, from what I can gather he wins national titles in pulling and such.. I will let you know what his crew says... |
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Transmission oil cooling
On 5/24/2014 9:33 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Appreciated. It is the Allison. The book says 200F should be the max, but I've approached that several times just on I-95 - during stop and go traffic. But I've also read that 235 to 260 isn't unreasonable. I'll look into an auxiliary cooler, if they make one. The bigger pan increases capacity by 5 quarts. A friend just installed one. Your transmission holds about 13 quarts of fluid stock. Adding 5 more quarts won't make it run any cooler .... it will just take a little longer to get up to max temp and a little longer to cool down. There are several auxiliary transmission coolers advertised for your truck, some fan assisted, some not. You mention that you see the temp go up in stop and go traffic. Maybe all your factory cooler needs is a temperature controlled fan that will turn on at a certain setpoint. |
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Transmission oil cooling
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/24/2014 9:33 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Appreciated. It is the Allison. The book says 200F should be the max, but I've approached that several times just on I-95 - during stop and go traffic. But I've also read that 235 to 260 isn't unreasonable. I'll look into an auxiliary cooler, if they make one. The bigger pan increases capacity by 5 quarts. A friend just installed one. Your transmission holds about 13 quarts of fluid stock. Adding 5 more quarts won't make it run any cooler .... it will just take a little longer to get up to max temp and a little longer to cool down. There are several auxiliary transmission coolers advertised for your truck, some fan assisted, some not. You mention that you see the temp go up in stop and go traffic. Maybe all your factory cooler needs is a temperature controlled fan that will turn on at a certain setpoint. I have pretty much the same truck. 140,000 miles, no tranny cooler. But I only tow about 4500#, but over some steep mountains. Seems to stay normal. Only time I really saw it climb was a 100+ day! and a 7000' mountain pass. |
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#9
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Transmission oil cooling
On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:11:43 -0500, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/24/2014 9:33 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Appreciated. It is the Allison. The book says 200F should be the max, but I've approached that several times just on I-95 - during stop and go traffic. But I've also read that 235 to 260 isn't unreasonable. I'll look into an auxiliary cooler, if they make one. The bigger pan increases capacity by 5 quarts. A friend just installed one. Your transmission holds about 13 quarts of fluid stock. Adding 5 more quarts won't make it run any cooler .... it will just take a little longer to get up to max temp and a little longer to cool down. There are several auxiliary transmission coolers advertised for your truck, some fan assisted, some not. You mention that you see the temp go up in stop and go traffic. Maybe all your factory cooler needs is a temperature controlled fan that will turn on at a certain setpoint. I have pretty much the same truck. 140,000 miles, no tranny cooler. But I only tow about 4500#, but over some steep mountains. Seems to stay normal. Only time I really saw it climb was a 100+ day! and a 7000' mountain pass. My trailer runs about 10,500 lbs, but the truck already has a factory installed auxiliary transmission oil cooler as part of the towing package. I'm beginning to think I'm worrying too much. |
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Transmission oil cooling
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997 Followup to my last ... I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just increase the capacity of the transmission pan. If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion. Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions. I'll probably just leave mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200. http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74 |
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