On 5/25/2014 8:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997



Followup to my last ...

I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as
an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were
noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more
inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just
increase the capacity of the transmission pan.

If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what
I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best
thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter
than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.


Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions. I'll probably just leave
mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200.

http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74



The Pace Arrow Class A motorhome we had for a while had an Allison
transmission. It was the only thing I liked about the whole rig.

Ford sorta copied some of the operating characteristics of the Allison
in the "TorqueShift" transmission used in the Super Duty Series. It
operates similarly to the Allison, including different gear ratios on
the downshifts than the upshifts.

One thing common to both that I assume you do ... always use the
"Tow/Haul" mode when towing. Otherwise, it *may* get hotter than normal.

On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:04:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2014 8:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997



Followup to my last ...

I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as
an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were
noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more
inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just
increase the capacity of the transmission pan.

If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what
I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best
thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter
than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.


Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions. I'll probably just leave
mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200.

http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74



The Pace Arrow Class A motorhome we had for a while had an Allison
transmission. It was the only thing I liked about the whole rig.

Ford sorta copied some of the operating characteristics of the Allison
in the "TorqueShift" transmission used in the Super Duty Series. It
operates similarly to the Allison, including different gear ratios on
the downshifts than the upshifts.

One thing common to both that I assume you do ... always use the
"Tow/Haul" mode when towing. Otherwise, it *may* get hotter than normal.


That is on my checklist. This sits on my dash:

DEPARTURE

" TOW/HAUL MODE
" JACKS 'OFF'
" HITCH FORWARD
" HITCH LOCKED
" TRAILER BRAKE
" REGRIGERATOR GAS
" TAIL LIGHTS
" WALK AROUND
" GET WIFE

Except for the last, I've forgotten all of them at least once!

On 5/25/2014 3:17 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:04:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2014 8:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997



Followup to my last ...

I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as
an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were
noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more
inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just
increase the capacity of the transmission pan.

If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what
I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best
thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter
than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.


Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions. I'll probably just leave
mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200.

http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74



The Pace Arrow Class A motorhome we had for a while had an Allison
transmission. It was the only thing I liked about the whole rig.

Ford sorta copied some of the operating characteristics of the Allison
in the "TorqueShift" transmission used in the Super Duty Series. It
operates similarly to the Allison, including different gear ratios on
the downshifts than the upshifts.

One thing common to both that I assume you do ... always use the
"Tow/Haul" mode when towing. Otherwise, it *may* get hotter than normal.


That is on my checklist. This sits on my dash:

DEPARTURE

" TOW/HAUL MODE
" JACKS 'OFF'
" HITCH FORWARD
" HITCH LOCKED
" TRAILER BRAKE
" REGRIGERATOR GAS
" TAIL LIGHTS
" WALK AROUND
" GET WIFE

Except for the last, I've forgotten all of them at least once!



It has been awhile but I remember always doing another hitch check on
the 5th wheel we had. Manually engage the trailer brakes only and,
while holding them on, try to pull way with the truck. If the hitch
isn't engaged and locked properly, you'll find out in a hurry. This is
done before fully retracting the landing gear.

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:04:31 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2014 8:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of

increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997







Followup to my last ...



I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as

an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were

noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more

inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just

increase the capacity of the transmission pan.



If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what

I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best

thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter

than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.





Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions.. I'll probably just leave

mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200.



http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74







The Pace Arrow Class A motorhome we had for a while had an Allison

transmission. It was the only thing I liked about the whole rig.



Ford sorta copied some of the operating characteristics of the Allison

in the "TorqueShift" transmission used in the Super Duty Series. It

operates similarly to the Allison, including different gear ratios on

the downshifts than the upshifts.



One thing common to both that I assume you do ... always use the

"Tow/Haul" mode when towing. Otherwise, it *may* get hotter than normal.

I'm having a little trouble with "different gear ratios" going down verses going up. There's only one collection of planetary gear sets in an automatic. The ratios don't change.

On 5/27/2014 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:04:31 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2014 8:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of

increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997







Followup to my last ...



I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as

an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were

noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more

inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just

increase the capacity of the transmission pan.



If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what

I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best

thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter

than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.





Here's an interesting and informative piece about Allison transmissions. I'll probably just leave

mine alone for a while. I've never seen the temp get much over 200.



http://dmaxstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_363&prod ucts_id=668&zenid=2euu9fpbqf4tmumt6ecj7kbu74







The Pace Arrow Class A motorhome we had for a while had an Allison

transmission. It was the only thing I liked about the whole rig.



Ford sorta copied some of the operating characteristics of the Allison

in the "TorqueShift" transmission used in the Super Duty Series. It

operates similarly to the Allison, including different gear ratios on

the downshifts than the upshifts.



One thing common to both that I assume you do ... always use the

"Tow/Haul" mode when towing. Otherwise, it *may* get hotter than normal.

I'm having a little trouble with "different gear ratios" going down verses going up. There's only one collection of planetary gear sets in an automatic. The ratios don't change.



I think I screwed that up. It's not different gear ratios, but rather
different shift pressures (when using the tow/haul mode). For example,
like the Allison, the Ford Torqshift will sense when going downhill and
automatically downshift to apply engine braking on gas engines, saving
wear on the brakes. Doesn't apply to diesels, since a diesel has no
engine braking.

On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:34:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:13:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997



Followup to my last ...

I assume your Silverado has a transmission fluid temp gauge as well as
an engine temp gauge. My Ford F-250 Super Duty does, I know. If I were
noticing higher than normal transmission temps while towing I'd be more
inclined to add an axillary transmission fluid cooler rather than just
increase the capacity of the transmission pan.

If I am not mistaken your truck has the Allison transmission. From what
I've heard, it is a superb transmission for towing ... probably the best
thing GM has going for it in their trucks. Unless it's getting hotter
than normal, I'd leave it alone. Just my humble opinion.


Don't these trucks circulate transmission oil through the radiator?

If you do want it cooler than that, pipe in an aux finned cooler in
front of the radiator or some other spot that gets clean air.

They circulate through a radiator mounted behind the front bumper. I've not checked on where an
auxiliary cooler could be mounted - if such a thing exists. And it appears there are several
different coolers out there. Will do more checking.

Thanks for input.

On 5/24/2014 4:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of
increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PPE-Allison-Deep-Tranmission-Pan-Duramax-Allison-1000-2000-2400-Series-128051000/121345886743?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkpa rms=aid%3D222008%26algo%3DSIC.MOTORS%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D22855%26meid%3D7132067336503725629%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D9833%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121335 643997

See what Allison says about it.

On Saturday, May 24, 2014 4:03:33 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
I'm thinking of putting one of these on the Silverado. Anyone had any experience with the concept of

increasing the oil supply to keep it cooler?

Its the best thing you could do for your Truck. It routes the Oil to a cooler usually placed in FRONT of the Rad. Better to have this, than to have your tranny fluid trying to cool off in a 170 degree Rad Tank !!! Transmissions work far better when cool. Also its good to wrap metal or plastic (not my choice)window screen around the front, to keep out bugs.You COULD put it right across the front of your Rad to keep out everything but air.

My Brother works at a Commercial AC/ Heat recovery business. He makes mine for free, with larger tubing (1/2 inch) as well. He makes extruded Fin-Tubes there. they can make a cooler in about 30 minutes start to finish.