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H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/7/2014 6:49 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/7/14, 1:24 AM, wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2014 23:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: I am tempted to purchase a membership for Harry. The real question is which magazine would Harry find most offensive, American Rifleman or American Hunter? NRA buys lists and solicits names on those lists for new suckers, er, members. Lots of organizations do that. I used to get NRA snail mail solicitations. I'd put them in an envelope and mail them back to the NRA, sans postage. I don't know if they got back to the NRA, postage-due, but I sure hope so. Wayne LaPierre and his buddies are thugs. You are the definition of a hater. http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/27/do...mes-breitbart/ |
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On 5/8/14, 7:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the sweetheart of the smart gun set http://www.armatix.us/iW1-active-RFI...80.0.html?&L=7 the German-made Armatix iP1 gun requires the user to wear a radio-controlled wris****ch, which uses microchips to communicate with the firearm via a PIN code. But, as soon as the gun loses contact with the watch—i.e. knocked out of the shooter's hand—it will automatically deactivate itself, according to the company's website. Armatix's Smart System also acts as a sort-of LoJack for the gun, which can be tracked online if lost or stolen. For practice, turn on the optional Target Control setting, and the weapon will function only when pointed at a "permitted" target. Not much of a home defense gun huh? The accompanying waterproof watch, meanwhile, showcases the watch and weapon's charge levels, offers time-controlled weapon deactivation, and comes with interchangeable straps, as well as enough power to handle 5,000 rounds or a minimum one year of standby. It also tells the local time. According to the International Business Times, the iP1 set is on sale in California for about $1,800—$1,399 for the gun, and another $399 for the watch. The .22 LR caliber Armatix iP1 pistol comes with a 10-round magazine, various operating modes, and boasts an operating distance of up to 10 inches. The technology will advance, if not here then overseas. Homicide via gun, rate per 100,000 residents USA 4.2 Germany 0.8 At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. |
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On 5/8/14, 7:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. Ahh, BertPoop, the John Bircher wannabe who for months convinced himself I couldn't buy a new regulated pistol from a licensed dealer in this state. |
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On 5/8/14, 7:23 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 19:16:07 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. The next paragraph to be added: (4) OWNERSHIP-Beginning on the date that is 4 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may own any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. --- I wonder how they'd 'retrofit' a Sig Sauer P226? You still have the SIG? By now, I thought you would have sold it. |
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On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office. There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney, the prohibitions read: (1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized handguns; and (2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped, leased, or distributed in the United States must be-- (A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the effective date in paragraph (1); or (B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured before the effective date in paragraph (1). I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership (give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be "Personalized", either by design or by retrofit. Good idea. |
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On 5/8/2014 8:48 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office. There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney, the prohibitions read: (1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized handguns; and (2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped, leased, or distributed in the United States must be-- (A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the effective date in paragraph (1); or (B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured before the effective date in paragraph (1). I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership (give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be "Personalized", either by design or by retrofit. Good idea. It's not a good idea. In fact it's about the dumbest, but totally predictable brain farts you expect to come from phony do-gooders who are simply betting on their political popularity and futures while making a name for themselves. Just like Hillary. There are about 300 million privately owned firearms in the USA. Do you seriously think that as many are sold, transferred or inherited that they will all be voluntarily retrofitted with "Personalization" devices by a populace that overwhelmingly supports the right to own firearms without excessive federal government regulation? Makes for good press for the liberal do-gooders but makes absolutely no practical sense what-so-ever. How about applying some of that political influence towards the enforcement of existing laws? |
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On 5/8/2014 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 20:44:49 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 7:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the sweetheart of the smart gun set http://www.armatix.us/iW1-active-RFI...80.0.html?&L=7 the German-made Armatix iP1 gun requires the user to wear a radio-controlled wris****ch, which uses microchips to communicate with the firearm via a PIN code. But, as soon as the gun loses contact with the watch—i.e. knocked out of the shooter's hand—it will automatically deactivate itself, according to the company's website. Armatix's Smart System also acts as a sort-of LoJack for the gun, which can be tracked online if lost or stolen. For practice, turn on the optional Target Control setting, and the weapon will function only when pointed at a "permitted" target. Not much of a home defense gun huh? The accompanying waterproof watch, meanwhile, showcases the watch and weapon's charge levels, offers time-controlled weapon deactivation, and comes with interchangeable straps, as well as enough power to handle 5,000 rounds or a minimum one year of standby. It also tells the local time. According to the International Business Times, the iP1 set is on sale in California for about $1,800—$1,399 for the gun, and another $399 for the watch. The .22 LR caliber Armatix iP1 pistol comes with a 10-round magazine, various operating modes, and boasts an operating distance of up to 10 inches. The technology will advance, if not here then overseas. Homicide via gun, rate per 100,000 residents USA 4.2 Germany 0.8 At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. How would this bull**** scheme stop ONE murder by gun? If it is my gun, I have the secret decoder ring and if I stole the gun I would just jumper the "smart chip" out. You can bet it's just another way to put reputable gun companies out of business, and of course each and every retrofit would be recorded and that information given to any liberal organization that might ask... |
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On 5/8/2014 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 20:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office. There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney, the prohibitions read: (1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized handguns; and (2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped, leased, or distributed in the United States must be-- (A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the effective date in paragraph (1); or (B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured before the effective date in paragraph (1). I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership (give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be "Personalized", either by design or by retrofit. That is the same language as they use in the Markey bill. It's a little different ... compare (2). The Markey bill prohibits *commerce* distribution 3 years after passage unless equipped or retro-fitted. The Tierney bill *all* distribution ... commercial sales, private sales, trades, transfers, etc. unless manufacturer equipped or retro-fitted with a personalization device. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 20:44:49 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 7:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the sweetheart of the smart gun set http://www.armatix.us/iW1-active-RFI...80.0.html?&L=7 the German-made Armatix iP1 gun requires the user to wear a radio-controlled wris****ch, which uses microchips to communicate with the firearm via a PIN code. But, as soon as the gun loses contact with the watch—i.e. knocked out of the shooter's hand—it will automatically deactivate itself, according to the company's website. Armatix's Smart System also acts as a sort-of LoJack for the gun, which can be tracked online if lost or stolen. For practice, turn on the optional Target Control setting, and the weapon will function only when pointed at a "permitted" target. Not much of a home defense gun huh? The accompanying waterproof watch, meanwhile, showcases the watch and weapon's charge levels, offers time-controlled weapon deactivation, and comes with interchangeable straps, as well as enough power to handle 5,000 rounds or a minimum one year of standby. It also tells the local time. According to the International Business Times, the iP1 set is on sale in California for about $1,800—$1,399 for the gun, and another $399 for the watch. The .22 LR caliber Armatix iP1 pistol comes with a 10-round magazine, various operating modes, and boasts an operating distance of up to 10 inches. The technology will advance, if not here then overseas. Homicide via gun, rate per 100,000 residents USA 4.2 Germany 0.8 At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. Meaningless until you differentiate homicide rates by type, meaning unintentional, accident or by intent. I can see where a "personalized" handgun might be safer in a house where unauthorized access to it is available but so is storing a conventional handgun in a secure safe ..... which is the law, at least in Massachusetts ... when not in your personal custody and control. |
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On 5/8/14, 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 20:44:49 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 7:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the sweetheart of the smart gun set http://www.armatix.us/iW1-active-RFI...80.0.html?&L=7 the German-made Armatix iP1 gun requires the user to wear a radio-controlled wris****ch, which uses microchips to communicate with the firearm via a PIN code. But, as soon as the gun loses contact with the watch—i.e. knocked out of the shooter's hand—it will automatically deactivate itself, according to the company's website. Armatix's Smart System also acts as a sort-of LoJack for the gun, which can be tracked online if lost or stolen. For practice, turn on the optional Target Control setting, and the weapon will function only when pointed at a "permitted" target. Not much of a home defense gun huh? The accompanying waterproof watch, meanwhile, showcases the watch and weapon's charge levels, offers time-controlled weapon deactivation, and comes with interchangeable straps, as well as enough power to handle 5,000 rounds or a minimum one year of standby. It also tells the local time. According to the International Business Times, the iP1 set is on sale in California for about $1,800—$1,399 for the gun, and another $399 for the watch. The .22 LR caliber Armatix iP1 pistol comes with a 10-round magazine, various operating modes, and boasts an operating distance of up to 10 inches. The technology will advance, if not here then overseas. Homicide via gun, rate per 100,000 residents USA 4.2 Germany 0.8 At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. How would this bull**** scheme stop ONE murder by gun? If it is my gun, I have the secret decoder ring and if I stole the gun I would just jumper the "smart chip" out. Oh, I don't know that the smartgun is *the* answer, but I do know that at some point gun violence will cause a tipping point and draconian anti-gun measures will pass and be enforced. Bet on it. |
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On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:51:40 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
On Wed, 7 May 2014 04:25:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:50:26 AM UTC-7, Boating All Out wrote: NRA thugs won't allow it. ****ing commies. Cocksucking anti-capitalistic gun-grabbers. Excuse my French. You remind me of JPS Yes, someone with a brain and consciousness. Thanks for the compliment! Brain and consciousness, no. Vulgar, yes. I notice you've said not a ****ing thing you proved my point about the merits of making this gun available or the stupidity of those opposing its manufacture. Trouble forming an opinion or just lazy? Did you ever consider that was working from 8 am to 10 pm with no time to address your senseless diatribe? No I suppose not- you're thought process is too limited for that. |
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On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:59:16 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
He has to consult with his Saviour. I do that every day, Harry. It's good for the mind and soul. You really should try that yourself. It just might make you a gentler person... |
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On 5/9/14, 12:05 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:59:16 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: He has to consult with his Saviour. I do that every day, Harry. It's good for the mind and soul. You really should try that yourself. It just might make you a gentler person... I'm not a superstitious guy. |
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On 5/9/14, 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 22:35:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 9:20 PM, wrote: At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. How would this bull**** scheme stop ONE murder by gun? If it is my gun, I have the secret decoder ring and if I stole the gun I would just jumper the "smart chip" out. Oh, I don't know that the smartgun is *the* answer, but I do know that at some point gun violence will cause a tipping point and draconian anti-gun measures will pass and be enforced. Bet on it. I never underestimate the desire of "liberal" government officials to take away rights in the false guise of making us safer. Maybe I should send the NRA $200. In the end, it will be the behavior of the NRA that contributes to the tightening of gun laws. |
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On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every one we try to make choose a different weapon. Your numbers are absurd. "Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S. Most people want nothing to do with guns. You have no numbers on ownership. It's a secret per the NRA. We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding the murder numbers)._ Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle. There's plenty proof of that here. Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc. There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US. LOL. Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense. Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist. Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed. Bottom line is what I said. The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want. I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck............. It's my ****ing business why I want the gun. The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand. NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S. The market will win in the end. We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not. You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else. |
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On Fri, 09 May 2014 00:11:36 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 22:35:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 9:20 PM, wrote: At some point the citizens of this country will have had enough of murder by gun. How would this bull**** scheme stop ONE murder by gun? If it is my gun, I have the secret decoder ring and if I stole the gun I would just jumper the "smart chip" out. Oh, I don't know that the smartgun is *the* answer, but I do know that at some point gun violence will cause a tipping point and draconian anti-gun measures will pass and be enforced. Bet on it. I never underestimate the desire of "liberal" government officials to take away rights in the false guise of making us safer. Maybe I should send the NRA $200. Let us know when you do. I'll match it. |
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Harry you mean the NRA will help make gun laws like they helped re- elect Harry Reid?
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On 5/9/14, 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every one we try to make choose a different weapon. Your numbers are absurd. "Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S. Most people want nothing to do with guns. You have no numbers on ownership. It's a secret per the NRA. We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding the murder numbers)._ Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle. There's plenty proof of that here. Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc. There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US. LOL. Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense. Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist. Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed. Bottom line is what I said. The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want. I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck............. It's my ****ing business why I want the gun. The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand. NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S. The market will win in the end. We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not. You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else. And Herring starts yet another day in rec.boats making disparaging remarks about yet another poster... |
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On 5/9/14, 7:45 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry you mean the NRA will help make gun laws like they helped re- elect Harry Reid? I'm sorry, Tim, but without context I have no idea what you are talking about here... |
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Google "NRA helps elect Harry Reid" it's easy to do...
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 21:11:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/8/2014 8:48 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office. There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney, the prohibitions read: (1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized handguns; and (2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped, leased, or distributed in the United States must be-- (A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the effective date in paragraph (1); or (B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured before the effective date in paragraph (1). I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership (give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be "Personalized", either by design or by retrofit. Good idea. It's not a good idea. In fact it's about the dumbest, but totally predictable brain farts you expect to come from phony do-gooders who are simply betting on their political popularity and futures while making a name for themselves. Just like Hillary. There are about 300 million privately owned firearms in the USA. Do you seriously think that as many are sold, transferred or inherited that they will all be voluntarily retrofitted with "Personalization" devices by a populace that overwhelmingly supports the right to own firearms without excessive federal government regulation? Makes for good press for the liberal do-gooders but makes absolutely no practical sense what-so-ever. How about applying some of that political influence towards the enforcement of existing laws? There, with his 'Good idea' comment, you see the biggest example of hypocrisy this side of the Mississippi. On the one hand the individual is building a decent sized arsenal, and on the other pushing his 'anti-gun' agenda. Why? Only to keep his few remaining liberal supporters in his camp. Apparently they can't see the hypocrisy. |
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On 5/9/2014 12:05 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:59:16 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: He has to consult with his Saviour. I do that every day, Harry. It's good for the mind and soul. You really should try that yourself. It just might make you a gentler person... Harry's not a keeper. Who'd save him. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On 5/9/14, 7:59 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 21:11:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/8/2014 8:48 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote: Don't confuse Harry with the facts. The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your presence to anyone who wants to know. This is the scary part Handgun Trigger Safety Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068: In part (a) Prohibition- (1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun. (2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun or a retrofitted personalized handgun. (3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS- Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to-- (A) an antique firearm; (B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the Department of Defense; or (C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the Department of Defense. It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office. There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney, the prohibitions read: (1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized handguns; and (2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped, leased, or distributed in the United States must be-- (A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the effective date in paragraph (1); or (B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured before the effective date in paragraph (1). I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership (give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be "Personalized", either by design or by retrofit. Good idea. It's not a good idea. In fact it's about the dumbest, but totally predictable brain farts you expect to come from phony do-gooders who are simply betting on their political popularity and futures while making a name for themselves. Just like Hillary. There are about 300 million privately owned firearms in the USA. Do you seriously think that as many are sold, transferred or inherited that they will all be voluntarily retrofitted with "Personalization" devices by a populace that overwhelmingly supports the right to own firearms without excessive federal government regulation? Makes for good press for the liberal do-gooders but makes absolutely no practical sense what-so-ever. How about applying some of that political influence towards the enforcement of existing laws? There, with his 'Good idea' comment, you see the biggest example of hypocrisy this side of the Mississippi. On the one hand the individual is building a decent sized arsenal, and on the other pushing his 'anti-gun' agenda. Why? Only to keep his few remaining liberal supporters in his camp. Apparently they can't see the hypocrisy. No hypocrisy at all. I favor far stricter gun control laws and far stricter limitations on what sorts of firearms can be purchased. And once again you are incapable of even trying to make a point withing tossing insults. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: God help us if this NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not. === You should find another group you like better. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On Fri, 09 May 2014 07:46:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
And Herring starts yet another day in rec.boats making disparaging remarks about yet another poster... === And Porky the mud wrestler does what he does best. |
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WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On 5/9/2014 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every one we try to make choose a different weapon. Your numbers are absurd. "Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S. Most people want nothing to do with guns. You have no numbers on ownership. It's a secret per the NRA. We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding the murder numbers)._ Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle. There's plenty proof of that here. Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc. There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US. LOL. Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense. Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist. Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed. Bottom line is what I said. The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want. I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck............. It's my ****ing business why I want the gun. The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand. NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S. The market will win in the end. We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not. You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else. Like Loogie? |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On 5/9/2014 7:46 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/9/14, 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every one we try to make choose a different weapon. Your numbers are absurd. "Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S. Most people want nothing to do with guns. You have no numbers on ownership. It's a secret per the NRA. We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding the murder numbers)._ Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle. There's plenty proof of that here. Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc. There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US. LOL. Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense. Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist. Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed. Bottom line is what I said. The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want. I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck............. It's my ****ing business why I want the gun. The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand. NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S. The market will win in the end. We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not. You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else. And Herring starts yet another day in rec.boats making disparaging remarks about yet another poster... Count me in on that. You don't have exclusive rights to assholeism, you know. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On 5/9/2014 7:48 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/9/14, 7:45 AM, Tim wrote: Harry you mean the NRA will help make gun laws like they helped re- elect Harry Reid? I'm sorry, Tim, but without context I have no idea what you are talking about here... Interesting. You never complained when Donnie was doing it. Why are you being snarky to Tim? Is it because he is a spiritual person? |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On Friday, May 9, 2014 5:01:08 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
snip The only thing worth saving was this gem: "Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense." It certainly has in your case. Your paranoia of "gun nuts" is comical. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On Friday, May 9, 2014 7:56:31 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Google "NRA helps elect Harry Reid" it's easy to do... He could take a community college course on how to do that! |
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WTF Happened To My 2nd?
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/9/2014 7:48 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/9/14, 7:45 AM, Tim wrote: Harry you mean the NRA will help make gun laws like they helped re- elect Harry Reid? I'm sorry, Tim, but without context I have no idea what you are talking about here... Interesting. You never complained when Donnie was doing it. Why are you being snarky to Tim? Is it because he is a spiritual person? Donnie is dumb and his only friend in this group. He has to cut him some slack. |
WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On Friday, May 9, 2014 5:36:43 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/9/14, 5:32 PM, wrote: On Friday, May 9, 2014 7:56:31 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: Google "NRA helps elect Harry Reid" it's easy to do... He could take a community college course on how to do that! Some of your right-wing buddies here couldn't get into an open admissions community college. Did you graduate from Yale with honours, Herr Krause? |
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WTF Happened To My 2nd?
On 5/10/2014 4:22 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 9 May 2014 21:26:40 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Funny my doctor never asked if I had a gun. Insurance company never asked either. Must be hell worrying about the doctors and the gubmint "coming after" you. And insurance companies. There is already a court case going with insurance and doctors, so this is not conjecture. Well, that's something for you to worry about, not me. Jesus H. Christ, you're besieged with worries. Huh? Can't remember worrying about any law, proposed or not. DOMA didn't bother you? How about Stand Your Ground? Nope. neither of them affects me. What's happening with them? Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed. So the law does exist. You get your panties in a wad about laws that exist in Florida and Texas all the time. You're the one worried about laws, not me. I don't care if they outlaw guns, or erase all gun laws. Just don't care for NRA thugs. There would be no resistance to the smart gun if you didn't have stupid laws like the one in New Jersey that says if anyone ever sells one, it will be the only kind people can buy. I heard they will repeal that law. So what? The NRA doesn't care. Neither do I. It's kinda fun watching you gun nuts dance though. Reminds me of how my wife is saying that Tanzanite is in short supply. It's not. But she believes the jewel dealers. How many politicians and organizations are attempting to put severe restrictions on jewelry that contains a Tanzanite gem stone? BTW, I suspect your wife is likely to be more correct than you. |
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