On 5/9/14, 7:45 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry you mean the NRA will help make gun laws like they helped re- elect Harry Reid?



I'm sorry, Tim, but without context I have no idea what you are talking
about here...

Google "NRA helps elect Harry Reid" it's easy to do...

On Thu, 08 May 2014 21:11:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:48 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote:


Don't confuse Harry with the facts.

The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something
akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your
presence to anyone who wants to know.


This is the scary part

Handgun Trigger Safety Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068:


In part

(a) Prohibition-

(1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after
the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the
United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun.

(2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3
years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may
distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun
or a retrofitted personalized handgun.

(3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS-
Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to--

(A) an antique firearm;

(B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the
Department of Defense; or

(C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the
Department of Defense.



It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and
Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office.

There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard
to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney,
the prohibitions read:

(1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this
Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized
handguns; and

(2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this
Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped,
leased, or distributed in the United States must be--

(A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the
effective date in paragraph (1); or

(B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured
before the effective date in paragraph (1).


I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and
old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership
(give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be
"Personalized", either by design or by retrofit.




Good idea.

It's not a good idea. In fact it's about the dumbest, but totally
predictable brain farts you expect to come from phony do-gooders who are
simply betting on their political popularity and futures while making a
name for themselves.

Just like Hillary.

There are about 300 million privately owned firearms in the USA. Do you
seriously think that as many are sold, transferred or inherited that
they will all be voluntarily retrofitted with "Personalization" devices
by a populace that overwhelmingly supports the right to own firearms
without excessive federal government regulation?

Makes for good press for the liberal do-gooders but makes absolutely no
practical sense what-so-ever.

How about applying some of that political influence towards the
enforcement of existing laws?



There, with his 'Good idea' comment, you see the biggest example of hypocrisy this side of the
Mississippi. On the one hand the individual is building a decent sized arsenal, and on the other
pushing his 'anti-gun' agenda. Why? Only to keep his few remaining liberal supporters in his camp.
Apparently they can't see the hypocrisy.

On 5/9/2014 12:05 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 11:59:16 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:



He has to consult with his Saviour.

I do that every day, Harry. It's good for the mind and soul.

You really should try that yourself. It just might make you a gentler person...

Harry's not a keeper. Who'd save him.

On 5/9/14, 7:59 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2014 21:11:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:48 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/8/14, 8:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/8/2014 7:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2014 18:51:18 -0400, BAR wrote:


Don't confuse Harry with the facts.

The problem with RFID is that you become a walking billboard something
akin to carrying a cell phone every where you go announcing your
presence to anyone who wants to know.


This is the scary part

Handgun Trigger Safety Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s2068:


In part

(a) Prohibition-

(1) MANUFACTURING- Beginning on the date that is 2 years after
the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the
United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun.

(2) DISTRIBUTION IN COMMERCE- Beginning on the date that is 3
years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may
distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized handgun
or a retrofitted personalized handgun.

(3) EXEMPTIONS FOR ANTIQUE FIREARMS AND MILITARY FIREARMS-
Paragraphs (1) and (2) shall not apply to--

(A) an antique firearm;

(B) the manufacture of a firearm that is sold to the
Department of Defense; or

(C) the sale or distribution of a firearm to the
Department of Defense.



It figures that this bill would originate from people like Markey and
Elizabeth Warren, two of the most left leaning MA politicians in office.

There is another bill .. H.R.2005 that is even more onerous with regard
to existing firearms. Sponsored by another MA Democrat, John Tierney,
the prohibitions read:

(1) effective 2 years after the date of the enactment of this
Act, handguns manufactured in the United States must be personalized
handguns; and

(2) effective 3 years after the date of the enactment of this
Act, handguns sold, offered for sale, traded, transferred, shipped,
leased, or distributed in the United States must be--

(A) personalized handguns, if manufactured on or after the
effective date in paragraph (1); or

(B) retrofitted personalized handguns, if manufactured
before the effective date in paragraph (1).


I read that as meaning that after three years *all* gun sales, new and
old, including private sales and even a simple transfer of ownership
(give firearm to family member) will require the firearm to be
"Personalized", either by design or by retrofit.




Good idea.

It's not a good idea. In fact it's about the dumbest, but totally
predictable brain farts you expect to come from phony do-gooders who are
simply betting on their political popularity and futures while making a
name for themselves.

Just like Hillary.

There are about 300 million privately owned firearms in the USA. Do you
seriously think that as many are sold, transferred or inherited that
they will all be voluntarily retrofitted with "Personalization" devices
by a populace that overwhelmingly supports the right to own firearms
without excessive federal government regulation?

Makes for good press for the liberal do-gooders but makes absolutely no
practical sense what-so-ever.

How about applying some of that political influence towards the
enforcement of existing laws?



There, with his 'Good idea' comment, you see the biggest example of hypocrisy this side of the
Mississippi. On the one hand the individual is building a decent sized arsenal, and on the other
pushing his 'anti-gun' agenda. Why? Only to keep his few remaining liberal supporters in his camp.
Apparently they can't see the hypocrisy.


No hypocrisy at all. I favor far stricter gun control laws and far
stricter limitations on what sorts of firearms can be purchased. And
once again you are incapable of even trying to make a point withing
tossing insults.

On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

God help us if this
NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not.

===

You should find another group you like better.

On Fri, 09 May 2014 07:46:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

And Herring starts yet another day in rec.boats making disparaging
remarks about yet another poster...

===

And Porky the mud wrestler does what he does best.

On 5/9/2014 5:01 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there
are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so
we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every
one we try to make choose a different weapon.

Your numbers are absurd.
"Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S.
Most people want nothing to do with guns.
You have no numbers on ownership.
It's a secret per the NRA.
We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding
the murder numbers)._
Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle.
There's plenty proof of that here.
Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc.
There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US.
LOL.
Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense.
Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist.
Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed.
Bottom line is what I said.
The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing
commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want.
I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck.............
It's my ****ing business why I want the gun.
The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand.
NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S.
The market will win in the end.
We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this
NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not.




You remind me of a puppy dog chasing his own tail. Kinda like the way
Loogie does. :-)

On 5/9/2014 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there
are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so
we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every
one we try to make choose a different weapon.

Your numbers are absurd.
"Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S.
Most people want nothing to do with guns.
You have no numbers on ownership.
It's a secret per the NRA.
We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding
the murder numbers)._
Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle.
There's plenty proof of that here.
Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc.
There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US.
LOL.
Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense.
Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist.
Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed.
Bottom line is what I said.
The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing
commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want.
I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck.............
It's my ****ing business why I want the gun.
The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand.
NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S.
The market will win in the end.
We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this
NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not.




You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else.

Like Loogie?

On 5/9/2014 7:46 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/9/14, 7:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014 04:01:08 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I do think it is ridiculous that we have 11,000 gun murders and there
are at least 110,000,000 gun owners, probably more like twice that so
we are going to punish 10,000-20,000 law abiding citizens for every
one we try to make choose a different weapon.

Your numbers are absurd.
"Probably 220,000,000" gun owners in the U.S.
Most people want nothing to do with guns.
You have no numbers on ownership.
It's a secret per the NRA.
We only have polls, which say your numbers are ridiculous (disregarding
the murder numbers)._
Gun fondlers own multiple guns to fondle.
There's plenty proof of that here.
Just as women own multiple rings, pendants, etc.
There are probably 3,500,000,000 pendant owners in the US.
LOL.
Funny how gun nut paranoia overcomes common sense.
Talking about "proposed" laws. "Laws" that don't exist.
Laws that exist only in NJ and can be repealed.
Bottom line is what I said.
The NRA (and Gun Owners of America) are anti-capitalistic gun-grabbing
commie thugs intimidating dealers who want to sell me a gun I want.
I don't need cites for that. If it walks like a duck.............
It's my ****ing business why I want the gun.
The gun sells in Europe and Asia. There is market demand.
NRA thuggery has prevented me from buying it in the U.S.
The market will win in the end.
We can't become a nation intimidated by NRA thugs. God help us if this
NG's jamocas were representative of our country. They're not.




You've proven you have a big mouth, but nothing else.



And Herring starts yet another day in rec.boats making disparaging
remarks about yet another poster...


Count me in on that. You don't have exclusive rights to assholeism, you
know.