On 4/16/14, 5:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/16/2014 5:46 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/16/14, 12:42 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:05:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/16/14, 11:58 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:35:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If open land existed between two remote cities and a high speed train
could actually run at 150 to 200 mph for most of the run it might
make
sense and people might use it. But we don't have that space in many
places where people would want to travel and the number of stops
between
the cities negates the whole allure of high speed train
transportation.

One of the most used Amtrak routes are on the northeast corridor. It
still represents a tiny fraction of the traveling public however.
It's
not high speed and will never be high speed. Land doesn't exist and
there are too many required stops.


Exactly right. The Acela boasts of speeds around 130-135 MPH but it
averages more like 60-65 and that is "train time" not the time at the
station parking, checking bags, security, boarding and getting off.

TSA is already talking about going into a full scale "airport" like
security system. We are just one threat away from it and the
government likes to get bigger.



Bull****. I've been on the Acela many times and when it is "train
time,"
it is moving a hell of a lot faster than 65 mph. Even the ****ty old
trains running on the ****ty CSX trackage from here to Florida hit 80
mph during "train time" and maintain that pace through each of the
seven
million or so unguarded railroad crossings.

It is 190 miles from Boston to New York. The Acela take 3.5 hours.

That is 54 MPH

DC is about 200 from NYC and it takes 2 hours and 45 minutes

That is 72 MPH if you don't stop in Philadelphia.



You are underestimating the car mileage via Hartford. It's at least 220
miles. And if you follow the Shoreline Train Route, it is even longer.
Unless there have been drastic changes in trackage, the train route from
Boston is through Rhode Island and then along the Connecticut shoreline.

Again, the Acela is even slower than it should be because of crappy
trackage and too many stops, although the tracks are better in that part
of NY/NEw England than from DC to Florida.


Personally, I'd rather travel by boat.



It's a nice boat ride through LI Sound and then up to Boston.

When I was a kid, though, I was on the train at least once a month from
New Haven to Back Bay Station to visit grandparents and aunts and uncles
and cousins. It was a great train ride back then. At least once, I had
to navigate myself from Back Bay to Maverick Station to get to Revere
Beach via the BEYr streetcar line. My paternal grandparents lived there.
I was probably 11 years old at the time. Great adventure.

On 4/16/2014 6:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/16/14, 5:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Personally, I'd rather travel by boat.



It's a nice boat ride through LI Sound and then up to Boston.

When I was a kid, though, I was on the train at least once a month from
New Haven to Back Bay Station to visit grandparents and aunts and uncles
and cousins. It was a great train ride back then. At least once, I had
to navigate myself from Back Bay to Maverick Station to get to Revere
Beach via the BEYr streetcar line. My paternal grandparents lived there.
I was probably 11 years old at the time. Great adventure.

Not recommended travel for an 11 year old now-a-days.

On 4/16/14, 6:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/16/2014 6:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/16/14, 5:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Personally, I'd rather travel by boat.



It's a nice boat ride through LI Sound and then up to Boston.

When I was a kid, though, I was on the train at least once a month from
New Haven to Back Bay Station to visit grandparents and aunts and uncles
and cousins. It was a great train ride back then. At least once, I had
to navigate myself from Back Bay to Maverick Station to get to Revere
Beach via the BEYr streetcar line. My paternal grandparents lived there.
I was probably 11 years old at the time. Great adventure.

Not recommended travel for an 11 year old now-a-days.




No. I agree. Times were a lot simpler and safer back then.

On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:31:52 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/16/2014 6:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 4/16/14, 5:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:







Personally, I'd rather travel by boat.







It's a nice boat ride through LI Sound and then up to Boston.



When I was a kid, though, I was on the train at least once a month from

New Haven to Back Bay Station to visit grandparents and aunts and uncles

and cousins. It was a great train ride back then. At least once, I had

to navigate myself from Back Bay to Maverick Station to get to Revere

Beach via the BEYr streetcar line. My paternal grandparents lived there.

I was probably 11 years old at the time. Great adventure.



Not recommended travel for an 11 year old now-a-days.

That's due to the influx of dangerous Republicans.