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F*O*A*D April 15th 14 04:44 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to
begin flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the
total lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of
$390.4 billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD
program officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military
services expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered,
and the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions.
Delivery of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could
be delayed by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also
increase the already significant concurrency between testing and
aircraft procurement and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to
dedicate an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several
years peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per
year, the F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major
defense acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators
concluded. “The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to
operate and support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal
budgets, cost projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal
challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that will
be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf


- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program is.

Califbill April 15th 14 04:50 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered, and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf


- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program is.


This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.

F*O*A*D April 15th 14 05:01 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On 4/15/14, 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered, and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf


- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program is.


This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.


Generals are pussies who can't say no? Surely the defense contractors
can be retrained to produce useful stuff, like high speed rails and the
high speed trains that run on them.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 15th 14 05:21 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On 4/15/2014 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered, and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf


- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program is.


This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.

Oh. Then it's OK. Spend away. ;-)

Mr. Luddite April 15th 14 05:21 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On 4/15/2014 12:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/15/14, 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly
70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to
begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program
officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military
services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered,
and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be
delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase
the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to
dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense
acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators
concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that
will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf



- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program
is.


This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.


Generals are pussies who can't say no? Surely the defense contractors
can be retrained to produce useful stuff, like high speed rails and the
high speed trains that run on them.


That's not how it works Harry. Calif Bill is correct. The Defense
Department and Pentagon did not want to continue the F-35's development.

It's Congress that is forcing it.



F*O*A*D April 15th 14 06:24 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On 4/15/14, 12:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/15/2014 12:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/15/14, 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly
70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to
begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program
officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military
services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of
mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered,
and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions.
Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be
delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase
the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft
procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities
issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to
dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year,
the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense
acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators
concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain
the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer
networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that
will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf




- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program
is.

This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.


Generals are pussies who can't say no? Surely the defense contractors
can be retrained to produce useful stuff, like high speed rails and the
high speed trains that run on them.


That's not how it works Harry. Calif Bill is correct. The Defense
Department and Pentagon did not want to continue the F-35's development.

It's Congress that is forcing it.



I understand that. So, why don't the SecDef and joint chiefs go to the
president and publicly all say no?

Califbill April 15th 14 09:50 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 4/15/2014 12:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/15/14, 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly
70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to
begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program
officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military
services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered,
and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be
delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase
the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to
dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense
acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators
concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that
will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf



- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program
is.

This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.


Generals are pussies who can't say no? Surely the defense contractors
can be retrained to produce useful stuff, like high speed rails and the
high speed trains that run on them.


That's not how it works Harry. Calif Bill is correct. The Defense
Department and Pentagon did not want to continue the F-35's development.

It's Congress that is forcing it.


And we have a high speed rail boondoggle already being pushed here in
California.

Califbill April 15th 14 09:50 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 4/15/2014 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered, and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that
will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

- See more at:
http://fedscoop.com/f-35-joint-strik....lS4foNhR.dpuf


- - -

The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program is.


This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.

Oh. Then it's OK. Spend away. ;-)


Nope, but basically the military has little say.

F*O*A*D April 15th 14 09:57 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On 4/15/14, 4:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 4/15/2014 12:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/15/14, 11:50 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter hits more turbulence


Developed by Lockheed Martin, the F-35 is DOD’s most expensive and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly
70 percent over budget

Continued software problems related to the Defense Department’s F-35
Joint Strike Fighter program could lead to delivery delays of
less-capable aircraft at a long-term price tag that may prove
unaffordable, congressional investigators said today.

Developmental testing of software deemed critical to the F-35′s initial
warfighting capability remains so far behind schedule, the Marine Corps
may not receive all of the capabilities it expects when it plans to
begin
flying the F-35. In addition, continued delays could push the total
lifecycle cost of the F-35 from its current projected level of $390.4
billion to an estimated $1 trillion — a figure with which DOD program
officials disagree.

“Delays in developmental flight testing of the F-35’s critical software
may hinder delivery of the warfighting capabilities the military
services
expect,” according to a report released today by the Government
Accountability Office. “Challenges in development and testing of mission
systems software continued through 2013, due largely to delays in
software delivery, limited capability in the software when delivered,
and
the need to fix problems and retest multiple software versions. Delivery
of expected warfighting capabilities to the Marine Corps could be
delayed
by as much as 13 months. Delays of this magnitude could also increase
the
already significant concurrency between testing and aircraft procurement
and result in additional cost growth.”

In addition to delivery deadlines and weapon system capabilities issues,
DOD also faces steep financial burdens related to the F-35 acquisition
effort. For the program to continue as planned, DOD will have to
dedicate
an average of $12.6 billion per year through 2037, with several years
peaking at $15 billion, according to GAO. At $12.6 billion per year, the
F-35 would consume almost one-quarter of DOD’s annual major defense
acquisition funding.

“Annual funding of this magnitude clearly poses long-term affordability
risks given the current fiscal environment,” GAO investigators
concluded.
“The F-35 fleet is estimated to cost around $1 trillion to operate and
support over its lifetime. In a time of austere federal budgets, cost
projections of this magnitude pose significant fiscal challenges.”

DOD plans call for spending $400 billion to develop and acquire 2,457
F-35s — known as the Joint Strike Fighter — through 2037, plus hundreds
of billions of dollars in long-term spending to operate and maintain the
aircraft. The F-35 family of next-generation fighter aircraft will
incorporate stealth technologies, which make it more difficult to be
identified by radar, as well as advanced sensors and computer networking
capabilities. DOD is developing three U.S variants for the Air Force,
Navy and Marine Corps, as well as eight international variants that
will be sold to allies.

The F-35, developed by Lockheed Martin, is DOD’s costliest and most
ambitious acquisition program. The program is estimated to be nearly 70
percent over budget.

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The Pentagon exists more than just partly to keep officers in uniform
and defense contractors in business. What a fripping this F35 program
is.

This is a Congressional boondoggle! I understand the Pentagon, does not
want this thing. But, Congress people want jobs in their districts.


Generals are pussies who can't say no? Surely the defense contractors
can be retrained to produce useful stuff, like high speed rails and the
high speed trains that run on them.


That's not how it works Harry. Calif Bill is correct. The Defense
Department and Pentagon did not want to continue the F-35's development.

It's Congress that is forcing it.


And we have a high speed rail boondoggle already being pushed here in
California.



Would that be a San Francisco-LA-San Diego high speed train? I'd sure
ride it in preference to the damned airplanes and SD airport.

[email protected] April 15th 14 11:03 PM

The boys must have their toys...
 
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:40:33 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Marines engaged in a firefight on the ground would overwhelmingly prefer

having a couple of relatively inexpensive, 20 year old A-10 Warthogs

come to their aid than the F-35 "general purpose" fighter that is

supposed to assume the A-10's ground support duties as well. The F-35

can't fly low enough, slow enough or stay on station long enough to

replace the A-10.



The A-10 is an amazing aircraft and weapons platform. Whenever there

have been budget cuts it has been put on the chopping block and every

time it's unique capabilities saved it.


I love this write-up on the A-10. It's got some specs and pics, and a cool video. Really gives you some perspective.

http://www.hightech-edge.com/general-electrics-a-10-30mm-gatlin-gun/9381/


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