My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
Memorable counts?

"Marsh Jones" wrote in message
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| My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
| - how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
| ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
| While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
| about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
| a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
| frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
| Memorable counts?


The cylinder index is the creation The Joe Souchery Radio Show
http://www.garagelogic.com/ica.htm

My first thoughts about a 'people powered' index a
-it needs to be broader than Carbon.
-that if taken beyond 'propulsive devices'(....skis, bike wheels, skates,
running shoes, paddles, snowshoes, etc) it would get complex, inflated, and
meaningless

Of course, my opinion has nothing to do with the fact that I don't golf, and
my bikes are steel, and Ti.

.....so perhaps start by adding up bike wheels, skates(ice/ inline; each pair
equal 2), same for paddles, footwear: 2pts/pair, skis- ....(perhaps skis
should be 1point/pair, and boots 1pt/pr)....divide the total by 2(or not)
I could do well at this as I am inclined not to throw anything out.
ED3

"Edward Dike, III" typed:

....so perhaps start by adding up bike wheels, skates(ice/ inline; each pair
equal 2), same for paddles, footwear: 2pts/pair, skis- ....(perhaps skis
should be 1point/pair, and boots 1pt/pr)....divide the total by 2(or not)
I could do well at this as I am inclined not to throw anything out.
ED3

Yuh, two bicycles, one pair of skiis, and three pairs of hiking boots
would add up OK, but I'd do marginally better counting boats at two
points each than at counting paddles. But what is a climber gonna
count? Harnesses?

However it's done, I will proudly rank higher on this index than on
the cylinder index (10; a V-twin motorcycle and a V-8 van). To my
mind, motors are for the road (yeh, the motorbike's almost as much fun
as boating, and I've got nothing against sportscars, on pavement), but
"powersports" is an oxymoron, and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.

A cartoon show, King of something, did an episode mocking the
absurdity of huge lawn-tractors.


-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.

Richard,

Hm. Interesting, I have 60% the cylinders in my life that you do, but my
SUV should be crushed for scrap while your van and Motorcycle go free?

I do Pretty well, between my gf and I we have 5 boats, 3 bicycles, 1
snowboard, a pile of climbing gear, plus rollerblades and running gear. And
bodyboards. Oh, and Scuba gear.

Geoff

"Geoff Jennings" typed:

and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.

Richard,

Hm. Interesting, I have 60% the cylinders in my life that you do, but my
SUV should be crushed for scrap while your van and Motorcycle go free?

Context, context! The context was "off-road"! (^BD (Notice the cute
way my little smiley face is wearing his helmet? I'm not sure if it's
his motorcyle helmet or his Gratful Heads, though.)

Jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles, and SUVs are designed to be used off the
road, where they can destroy the land that has not already bin paved
over. My van, my motorbike, sedans, minivans and station-wagons,
sportscars, trucks and semi-trailers are designed for the road, and my
van and motorbike stay on the road or the shoulder.

My statement was that, in my view, "motors are for the road". The
reason I said "99%" instead of 100% is that there are a few very real
SAR, geological or biological survey, archaeological or
paleontological exploration, law-enforcement, and probably a few other
socially valuable uses for off-road vehicles.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net 1-301-775-0471
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rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu 1-336-713-5077
OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters.
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:17:31 GMT, Marsh Jones
wrote:

My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
Memorable counts?

8 graphite fly rods
6 pairs of ski poles
4 pairs of skis
What are "golf clubs"?

g.c.
Whose paddles are built from wood, canoe from royalex, fliy lines from plastic-
all of which contain carbon mixed witha little hydrogen and oxygen.

What are "golf clubs"?

Golf clubs are sticks you hit the ball with to drive it to
the hole if you lack the intelligence to
train your dog to do so.

Sticks of carbon for me = 0 (but I am glad you let me read and post here
anyway)
Propulsive devices 6 misc and maybe 12 pr skis (only 2 decent ones though),
the rest are for rocks or to give to newbies.
gr
"Marsh Jones" wrote in message
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My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
Memorable counts?

Hey, that's not fair! (my bike is titanium)

How about a wheel index - you can count single ski as a wheel, so is
pole.

Let's see...

My road bike, my wife's bike, tandem, my son's bike (I bought it, but
no longer
own it though), my skates, wife's skates (all 5 wheel), my rollerski
and poles,
snow ski + poles, my wife's ski + poles, tandem kayak with paddles
(yes, that's a wheel too)-2 paddles, power waking poles -1 pair,
mountain bike.

Hmmm.. that is 50 - still a long way to go.

Let's see.. old skates -8, my computer chair - 5 wheels

still not enough...

Maybe it should be clothing based.

How many articles of clothing do you own made from Lycra, Spandex,
Gore-Tex, Neoprene, Polypropylene.

In fact, if you include the correct fabrics, you could take this index
way beyond sports.....

Marsh Jones wrote in message news:%zmfb.488288$Oz4.332119@rwcrnsc54...
My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
Memorable counts?