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On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:53:31 -0500, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Militias head to Nevada ranchers standoff with feds: Were not afraid to shoot Nevada rancher Cliven Bundys decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds whove circled his land and talk is, theyre not afraid to open fire. A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: Im not afraid to shoot, he said. Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundys sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation was like a war zone and that she felt like I was not in the United States, The Daily Mail reported. The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided, in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the ranchers son was hit with a taser. On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundys property, escalating a court dispute thats wound for two decades over the ranchers refusal to pay for grazing fees. Mr. Bundys view is that he owns his property that its been in his familys hands for centuries and he doesnt have to pay for his own 900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property. The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and flying helicopters overhead the familys home. Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundys sons, Ammon Bundy, was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was hit from the back; it was like a football tackle and that they just took me and threw me down to the ground, The Daily Mail reported. BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters who rallied to the familys defense kicked a K-9 unit officer. Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight. This is what we do, we provide armed response, Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government. Mr. Lordy also said many more militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense. They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak, another member told the Review-Journal. Read mo http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX - - - If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court. Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list. You're a funny guy, Zell. I may be funny, but you are sick. You represent your thoughts as if they were his and then call him sick. And you sound stupid. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’ Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire. A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said. Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone” and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported. The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser. On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees. Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own 900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property. The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and flying helicopters overhead the family’s home. Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported. BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer. Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight. “This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.” Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense. “They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” another member told the Review-Journal. Read mo http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX - - - If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court. Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list. You're a funny guy, Zell. I may be funny, but you are sick. Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a gunfight, you are probably going to die. Yup, murdered with little consequence. |
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On 4/13/2014 9:59 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there. Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door. I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed." It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off. I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or something. Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg. With your common sense lacking so badly, you should find a safer hobby. |
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On 4/13/2014 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there. Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door. I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed." It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off. I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or something. Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg. Filling a void in your life? A black hole! |
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On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there. Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door. I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed." It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off. I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or something. Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg. Filling a void in your life? A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work at it a day or two a week. |
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On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there. Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door. I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed." It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off. I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or something. Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg. Filling a void in your life? A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work at it a day or two a week. Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years? For example, you should consider once in a while that your past association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly "mainstream". You are the oddity, not others. |
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On 4/14/14, 7:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there. Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door. I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed." It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off. I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or something. Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg. Filling a void in your life? A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work at it a day or two a week. Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years? For example, you should consider once in a while that your past association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly "mainstream". You are the oddity, not others. I just checked the non-existent rules here, and didn't find one that stated you have to agree with my opinions. I will admit that my years of working with labor unions and their members taught me that working men and women are not serfs, and that being in favor of decent wages, safe working conditions, easily available health care, a reasonable retirement, et cetera, puts me on the correct side of those issues. Capital is not on a higher plane than labor. |
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On 4/14/14, 12:16 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’ Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire. A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said. Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone” and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported. The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser. On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees. Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own 900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property. The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and flying helicopters overhead the family’s home. Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported. BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer. Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight. “This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.” Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense. “They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” another member told the Review-Journal. Read mo http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX - - - If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court. Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list. You're a funny guy, Zell. I may be funny, but you are sick. Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a gunfight, you are probably going to die. Yup, murdered with little consequence. The lesson, which right-wing dummies never seem to learn, is that a gang of morons with pop guns isn't going to be able to hold off the local sheriff, much less the United States government. |
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