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On 4/13/14, 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:22:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 2:44 PM,
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:40:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 11:14 AM,
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There is no such thing as the Florida Panther anymore. They are just
garden variety mountain lions since they were cross bread with Texas
cougars.
There are already plenty of oil wells here with no ill effect on the
cougars or the aquifers. It turns out these cats have no problem
living around people. The people do have a problem with the cats tho,
when they start losing pets, farm animals and wondering when a kid
will be next.
These are the same cats that eat joggers in California.
Maybe we should drop a dozen in Southern Md and let you "enjoy" them
too.


Greg the Anti-Environmentalist. Love it.

I do understand how the endangered species act is written.

The "Florida Panther" lost it's endangered status, legally, over 2
decades ago and a court case proved it.
When people bring it up they are simply hoping nobody actually
understands it. You fell for the lie but that is not shocking.


You're confused. You're hung up on definitions and I'm saying if there
are big cats living in the areas under question they should be left
alone. They certainly are as valuable a resource as any of the rednecks
who live in your area.


I guess the part you don't understand is we are talking about Golden
Gate Estates, a place about as densely populated as where you live. It
is certainly not a wilderness area.

The real problem with the cougars is that they are territorial and the
available territories are already occupied so they are expanding their
range into residential areas. We have the same problem with the bears.
I am sure you would be complaining to someone if a bear broke into
your house looking for a meal.
You might even shoot it if it was between you and the door.



My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."
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jps wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:53:31 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.


You represent your thoughts as if they were his and then call him
sick.


And you sound stupid.
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Yup, murdered with little consequence.
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On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another
door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.


Filling a void in your life?


A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you
don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who
is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used
to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work
at it a day or two a week.


Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is
the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years?

For example, you should consider once in a while that your past
association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also
manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly
"mainstream". You are the oddity, not others.


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On 4/14/14, 7:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another
door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.

Filling a void in your life?


A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you
don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who
is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used
to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work
at it a day or two a week.


Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is
the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years?

For example, you should consider once in a while that your past
association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also
manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly
"mainstream". You are the oddity, not others.


I just checked the non-existent rules here, and didn't find one that
stated you have to agree with my opinions.

I will admit that my years of working with labor unions and their
members taught me that working men and women are not serfs, and that
being in favor of decent wages, safe working conditions, easily
available health care, a reasonable retirement, et cetera, puts me on
the correct side of those issues. Capital is not on a higher plane than
labor.
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On 4/14/14, 12:16 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Yup, murdered with little consequence.


The lesson, which right-wing dummies never seem to learn, is that a gang
of morons with pop guns isn't going to be able to hold off the local
sheriff, much less the United States government.
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