On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:56:20 AM UTC-7, wrote:

I imagine he is just trying to stir up some actual boating content. It

is a shame he has to dig that deep to find it.



I am not sure we still have any I/O guys here tho.



Personally I think they are "trailer boat only" in most applications.

I am not sure I want to keep rubber parts below the water line on a

boat that stays in the water around here.

Hey, these ancient posts have a wealth of info. and I'm enjoying them .

Greg, I could switch over to outboards, I've had a few of those too.

?;^ )

On 3/29/14, 6:17 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:56:20 AM UTC-7, wrote:

I imagine he is just trying to stir up some actual boating content. It

is a shame he has to dig that deep to find it.



I am not sure we still have any I/O guys here tho.



Personally I think they are "trailer boat only" in most applications.

I am not sure I want to keep rubber parts below the water line on a

boat that stays in the water around here.

Hey, these ancient posts have a wealth of info. and I'm enjoying them .

Greg, I could switch over to outboards, I've had a few of those too.

?;^ )



The antique outboard site is still alive and well:

http://www.aomci.org/

I still have a place in my heart for a mid 1950s Evinrude Lightwin or
Ducktwin.

Here's a page on reviving a long out of service outboard:

http://forums.iboats.com/engine-freq...oy-158086.html

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:27:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:56:20 AM UTC-7, wrote:



I imagine he is just trying to stir up some actual boating content. It



is a shame he has to dig that deep to find it.







I am not sure we still have any I/O guys here tho.







Personally I think they are "trailer boat only" in most applications.



I am not sure I want to keep rubber parts below the water line on a



boat that stays in the water around here.



Hey, these ancient posts have a wealth of info. and I'm enjoying them .



Greg, I could switch over to outboards, I've had a few of those too.



?;^ )



Now that the 4 strokes are getting better, there is very little

advantage to an I/O.

My mother's family all ran "Bay Built" work boats with inboards and I

thought an I/O was the best of both worlds until I got down here.

The ones I was familiar with on the Chesapeake were still trailer

boats. Down here the only I/Os you see are "go fasts" with big block

V-8s that seldom get wet.

I know exactly what you're saying Greg. But unless you have a sail boat, and like to pay slip rents, around here, trailer boating rules. Mercruiser alpha 1's are easy to come by due to long term use. I mean' it's kinda hard to improve a hammer.

And I/0 engines are something that most parts you can get through NAPA. Like carb kits, solenoids, belts etc. I wouldn't use an automotive water pump, though...

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:19:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now that the 4 strokes are getting better, there is very little

advantage to an I/O.

My mother's family all ran "Bay Built" work boats with inboards and I

thought an I/O was the best of both worlds until I got down here.

The ones I was familiar with on the Chesapeake were still trailer

boats. Down here the only I/Os you see are "go fasts" with big block

V-8s that seldom get wet.

I know exactly what you're saying Greg. But unless you have a sail boat, and like to pay slip rents, around here, trailer boating rules. Mercruiser alpha 1's are easy to come by due to long term use. I mean' it's kinda hard to improve a hammer.

And I/0 engines are something that most parts you can get through NAPA. Like carb kits, solenoids, belts etc. I wouldn't use an automotive water pump, though...

What's a "carb kit"?

I haven't had anything bigger than a lawn mower with a carb in 15
years. These days those tune up parts are not really that important.
On a 4 stroke outboard the maintenance is mostly oil changes.
You still have thermostats, impellers and anodes in your stern drive.
Those are the other common maintenance parts.
If you are running in salt water you will need fresh water cooling so
you will be adding the heat exchanger parts to your maintenance
schedule, along with all of those rubber parts that keep your boat
from sinking.
I think the advent of EFI 4 strokes pushed outboards past the I/O and
you can get 350HP in an outboard. I hear rumors a 400 is in the works
from the majors.

If you want a boutique manufacturer, there is Seven Marine, putting a
Northstar Cadillac engine in an outboard. (557HP and looking at
something over 600 from what I hear)

This is what I'd call a 'carb kit', although it's not for a V6.

http://www.harpermoto.com/carburettor-gasket-kit.html

For when it's cold, rainy, and you're looking for something to do.

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:37:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:


I have gone out of my way to forget carb kits.



It is like painting. I know how to do it but I hate it.

If you don't have access to a hot tank, "rebuilding" carbs can be a

frustrating exercise. There always seems to be one passage you don't

get completely clean and that is usually the one that caused the

problem in the first place.

Yep!

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:37:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:


I have gone out of my way to forget carb kits.



It is like painting. I know how to do it but I hate it.

If you don't have access to a hot tank, "rebuilding" carbs can be a

frustrating exercise. There always seems to be one passage you don't

get completely clean and that is usually the one that caused the

problem in the first place.

Yep!

You do not want a hot tank on aluminum. Use Chem-dip or another aluminum
cleaner.

On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:52:14 -0500, Califbill wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:37:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:


I have gone out of my way to forget carb kits.



It is like painting. I know how to do it but I hate it.

If you don't have access to a hot tank, "rebuilding" carbs can be a

frustrating exercise. There always seems to be one passage you don't

get completely clean and that is usually the one that caused the

problem in the first place.

Yep!

You do not want a hot tank on aluminum. Use Chem-dip or another aluminum
cleaner.

I've been using Gumout Carb cleaner for years on my aluminum motorcycle carbs and never had a
problem.

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:52:14 AM UTC-7, Califbill wrote:

You do not want a hot tank on aluminum. Use Chem-dip or another aluminum

cleaner.

Well, on something like that, I actually use a dedicated carburetor cleaner. But don't do it that often so....

wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:52:14 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:37:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:


I have gone out of my way to forget carb kits.



It is like painting. I know how to do it but I hate it.

If you don't have access to a hot tank, "rebuilding" carbs can be a

frustrating exercise. There always seems to be one passage you don't

get completely clean and that is usually the one that caused the

problem in the first place.

Yep!

You do not want a hot tank on aluminum. Use Chem-dip or another aluminum
cleaner.

I am not sure what they had in the tank but they called it a hot tank
and a carb came out looking brand new.,

Hot tanks where they cleaned blocks would eat aluminum. Made nice bubbles
in the tank. The engine block tanks used Caustic Soda.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:37:13 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:29:03 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:19:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now that the 4 strokes are getting better, there is very little

advantage to an I/O.

My mother's family all ran "Bay Built" work boats with inboards and I

thought an I/O was the best of both worlds until I got down here.

The ones I was familiar with on the Chesapeake were still trailer

boats. Down here the only I/Os you see are "go fasts" with big block

V-8s that seldom get wet.

I know exactly what you're saying Greg. But unless you have a sail boat, and like to pay slip rents, around here, trailer boating rules. Mercruiser alpha 1's are easy to come by due to long term use. I mean' it's kinda hard to improve a hammer.

And I/0 engines are something that most parts you can get through NAPA. Like carb kits, solenoids, belts etc. I wouldn't use an automotive water pump, though...

What's a "carb kit"?

I haven't had anything bigger than a lawn mower with a carb in 15
years. These days those tune up parts are not really that important.
On a 4 stroke outboard the maintenance is mostly oil changes.
You still have thermostats, impellers and anodes in your stern drive.
Those are the other common maintenance parts.
If you are running in salt water you will need fresh water cooling so
you will be adding the heat exchanger parts to your maintenance
schedule, along with all of those rubber parts that keep your boat
from sinking.
I think the advent of EFI 4 strokes pushed outboards past the I/O and
you can get 350HP in an outboard. I hear rumors a 400 is in the works
from the majors.

If you want a boutique manufacturer, there is Seven Marine, putting a
Northstar Cadillac engine in an outboard. (557HP and looking at
something over 600 from what I hear)

This is what I'd call a 'carb kit', although it's not for a V6.

http://www.harpermoto.com/carburettor-gasket-kit.html

For when it's cold, rainy, and you're looking for something to do.

I have gone out of my way to forget carb kits.

It is like painting. I know how to do it but I hate it.
If you don't have access to a hot tank, "rebuilding" carbs can be a
frustrating exercise. There always seems to be one passage you don't
get completely clean and that is usually the one that caused the
problem in the first place.

Guzzi carbs aren't near as complicated as a 2 or 4 barrel auto carb. I tried to rebuild one of those
4 barrels when I was about 19. Got it back on the car, had a friend hit the starter, and gas came
flowing out the top of the carb. I never tried again until I got a Moto Guzzi. They're pretty easy
to work on.