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F*O*A*D March 19th 14 01:57 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!


I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.

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Poco Loco March 19th 14 02:12 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:16:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:44:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:35 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:25:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 6:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d

wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable
of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that
kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some
tires for the Silverado. About
settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12
mounting/balancing/etc. That's
$28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for
mounting/balancing.


You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast?
My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still
like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear.


It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that
trailer. These tires are probably
good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to
Yellowstone, which is in our
thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set.



We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first
TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome.
JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we
were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia
somewhere.

All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed
fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came
from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the
tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit
ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It
was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around.
Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they
had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for
the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire.

That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk.
Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck.
I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was
chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the
manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame
to add an extension).

Got rid of it fast.



On our recent trip to south Florida, we flew for about $225 each round
trip, got the Exit Row seats, and got there in two hours and twenty
minutes. Rented a car for the week for $198. Stayed in a four/five star
hotel right on the beach for about $200 a night. Airfare, car rental and
hotel for under $1800. I spent $20 to fill the car with gas when turning
it in.

Big, comfy RV, towed by a diesel truck...hmmm...about 1200 miles each
way, total of 2400 miles getting there and back. 10-12 mpg, let's say
12. 200 gallons of diesel @4.00 a gallon. And that doesn't include wear
and tear on your tow vehicle and trailer... $800+ for fuel. And all
the wonderful sights along I-95. Blech. :)

It's a 15 to 20 hour drive in a car. Been there, done that. So, a full
day each way, and then you have to sleep for half a day when you get
there or back. Three days lost in travel and aftermath of travel.

Food on the road, three meals a day, at least $50 a day per person. Say
$125 for food on the road.

Six nights in a first-class beachfront RV park. That I don't know...but
there were no such RV parks where we were. $75 a night? $500?

And you really truly have to enjoy driving and driving and driving. I
*hate* that.

Yellowstone is about 2200 miles from here. Twice as far as Hollywood-Ft.
Lauderdale. Oi!

Different strokes, of course. But... Oi!


And you brag about your 'twin-dieseled, Volvo powered trawler. What a joke.

I won't counter your silly argument. Not worth it. You like the view from 35,000 feet. I don't.



Even a long, slow boat ride down the ICW is better than a long, slow
drive down I-95. The beauty of the view from 35,000 feet is that within
the United States, it doesn't last very long. It's a six hour flight to
Jackson Hole. How long is the drive? 40-60 hours? :) Of course, if one
is "retired," time has little meaning.

Oh, and I hardly "brag" about boats, cars, motorcycles, et cetera. I
barely mention them.


Actually, FOAD, I'd probably not be going down I-95 to get to Yellowstone. But, to each his own.



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good food!



On a motorcycle trip to Yellowstone with friends from Holland, we took Hwy 2 across much of Nebraska
and then cut up to the Badlands of South Dakota. We joked about Hwy 2, getting ready for 'the' curve
ten miles in advance. The country was beautiful. I'd love to do it again. Sandy has never seen that
part of the country.


KC March 19th 14 02:13 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 9:48 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the
generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were
passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator
compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding
inside a
towed RV?

On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.


Your comment was regarding a motorhome in which people are riding and
have the generator on to run additional A/C unit(s).

Harry responds with a question regarding the legality of riding inside a
towed RV.

Made no sense to me either because they are entirely different issues.


Hary Is a trained abstractor. He can cloud any issue with his random
thoughts.


At the risk of being accused of addressing every post harry makes like
others here.... I suggest you are about 180 off... the trained
un-abstractor is loogie, harry is easy to pin down... you always know
what he is gonna' say the history is solid:)


Poco Loco March 19th 14 02:15 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:54:05 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good food!


90 doesn't hit Nebraska. South Dakota.
Whatever road you took, you're right about Nebraska. It has some of the
least populated counties in the U.S.
It's surreal driving through the sand hills.
Makes you wonder. I forget about what.


The last time I was in the Sand Hills was with a government Dodge truck pulling a very overloaded
government office trailer. The distance between two gas stations was 126 miles. The truck did 120.
Luckily we only had to wait a half hour for another car to come along and give us a six-mile ride.


Poco Loco March 19th 14 02:17 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:57:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!


I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Good. You undoubtedly saw everything worth seeing.


KC March 19th 14 02:18 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 8:52 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:21:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding inside a
towed RV?

On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.



Sure it does. In a motorhome, the passengers get to enjoy some of the
conveniences of the motorhome while it is underway. In a towed RV, in
most states, your conveniences while underway are limited to what's
available in the truck, because it is illegal to be inside the RV.

Got it?

Abstract thinking, Johnny. Give it a try. If you are able.


What was abstract? You're proud that you can ask a nonsensical question?

The enjoyment of 'some of the conveniences of the motorhome' has never been an issue with us.
Neither of us has ever said, "Wouldn't it be nice to go back and pee, cook, sleep, watch TV, etc." I
suppose you'd get a charge out of it, but those 'conveniences' aren't, to me, worth the hassle and
expense of a motorhome suitable for only one thing. I wouldn't want my wife back there cooking while
going down the road, and I can't see anything else that would make the motorhome all that practical.


Everybody is different... If we ever get our asses out of the situation
we are in now we plan to get a pickup truck with a slide on camper for
me, and tow a trailer with bikes and residence for Jess... In a pinch we
can tuck into either, or dump both and ride it out in the pickup.

One thing we have different that most of you (I suppose) is that when we
are heading for a race with bad weather expected, we don't re-route or
reschedule our trip so it happens we have found ourselves camping in
tornado warnings more than once... nothing worse than sitting in a tent
or a jeep on the top of a bald hill while tornadoes are touching down in
the area... Someone said one touched at the other end of the parade
field in one trip, it was nuts..

Poco Loco March 19th 14 02:19 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:17:46 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding inside a
towed RV?


On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.


Where did you ever get that notion? I have never felt the need to run
the generator underway.


I don't know why the guy had his running, but I do know the friends who bought the Winnebago Journey
use the generator to cool the rig. The little air conditioner in the 'cab' isn't sufficient when
driving where it's hot.


Poco Loco March 19th 14 02:23 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:28:22 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/19/14, 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:44:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:35 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:25:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 6:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d

wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler
capable
of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get
that
kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some
tires for the Silverado. About
settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12
mounting/balancing/etc. That's
$28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for
mounting/balancing.


You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast?
My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires
are still
like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear.


It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that
trailer. These tires are probably
good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to
Yellowstone, which is in our
thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set.



We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The
first
TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A
motorhome.
JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we
were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia
somewhere.

All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed
fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came
from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the
tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit
ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was
flat. It
was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around.
Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but
they
had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for
the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the
tire.

That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of
junk.
Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck.
I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was
chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by
the
manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the
frame
to add an extension).

Got rid of it fast.



On our recent trip to south Florida, we flew for about $225 each round
trip, got the Exit Row seats, and got there in two hours and twenty
minutes. Rented a car for the week for $198. Stayed in a four/five
star
hotel right on the beach for about $200 a night. Airfare, car
rental and
hotel for under $1800. I spent $20 to fill the car with gas when
turning
it in.

Big, comfy RV, towed by a diesel truck...hmmm...about 1200 miles each
way, total of 2400 miles getting there and back. 10-12 mpg, let's say
12. 200 gallons of diesel @4.00 a gallon. And that doesn't include
wear
and tear on your tow vehicle and trailer... $800+ for fuel. And all
the wonderful sights along I-95. Blech. :)

It's a 15 to 20 hour drive in a car. Been there, done that. So, a full
day each way, and then you have to sleep for half a day when you get
there or back. Three days lost in travel and aftermath of travel.

Food on the road, three meals a day, at least $50 a day per person.
Say
$125 for food on the road.

Six nights in a first-class beachfront RV park. That I don't
know...but
there were no such RV parks where we were. $75 a night? $500?

And you really truly have to enjoy driving and driving and driving. I
*hate* that.

Yellowstone is about 2200 miles from here. Twice as far as
Hollywood-Ft.
Lauderdale. Oi!

Different strokes, of course. But... Oi!


And you brag about your 'twin-dieseled, Volvo powered trawler. What
a joke.

I won't counter your silly argument. Not worth it. You like the view
from 35,000 feet. I don't.



Even a long, slow boat ride down the ICW is better than a long, slow
drive down I-95. The beauty of the view from 35,000 feet is that within
the United States, it doesn't last very long. It's a six hour flight to
Jackson Hole. How long is the drive? 40-60 hours? :) Of course, if one
is "retired," time has little meaning.

Oh, and I hardly "brag" about boats, cars, motorcycles, et cetera. I
barely mention them.


Actually, FOAD, I'd probably not be going down I-95 to get to
Yellowstone. But, to each his own.



Abstract thinking, Johnny...give it a try. No one said or implied you'd
be going "down" I-95 for your westward covered wagon trek to Yosemite.

Oh, and wouldn't you get on the Beltway at Van Dorn to get to I-66 West,
assuming you were going west on I-66 for at least some distance? The
Beltway is the I-95/295/395/495 connector looparound the Washington
metro area.

Driving to Yosemite hauling a 35-foot land yacht. Sheesh. You really
gotta love those endless drives on the Interstates.

Actually Haree, we just got back from a month long tour of the deep
south. We met some of the nicest, friendliest people along the way. It
wouldn't have happened at 35000 feet. The best you could expect up there
is to be seated next to a smelly old fat guy. But maybe that doesn't
bother you. I avoid public transportation of any sort whenever I can.


It's also been our experience that you meet very nice people along the way. We've made some good
friends of folks we've met at campgrounds. We've even had great neighbors staying in a Flying J
parking lot.


F*O*A*D March 19th 14 02:30 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:57:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!


I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Good. You undoubtedly saw everything worth seeing.


There you go again. I didn't say or imply I saw "everything worth
seeing" in that part of the Midwest and West. I said I saw everything I
*wanted* to see there.

The night city editor at the KC Star warned young reporters not to screw
up too badly because, he said, if we did, he'd post us to Great Bend,
Kansas, for a month. Hell, there were worse places in Kansas back then
than Great Bend.

Wes Gallagher and Keith Fuller, my old bosses at The Associated Press,
gave me a similar warning when I was promoted to Correspondent for a
good chunk of West Virginia, Ohio, and Kentucky.

"Screw up there, and we'll send you out to the South Dakota bureau."

I told him I'd already been to South Dakota.

Fuller's last words to me: "Get your ass out of here (NY AP offices)
and get down to West Virginia."

Once we got to West Virginia, we stopped for gas at a really rural station.

The attendant looked into our car and asked, "What kind of dog is that,
mister?"

His buddy, who was wiping the windshield, said, "That's no dog, you
dummy...that's a Siamese cat. I saw one in a picture book once."

He was right...it was a Siamese cat. Obviously, he was too sophisticated
for his town.

I had a great time in West Virginia. Met some terrific people.





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Mr. Luddite March 19th 14 02:32 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 9:54 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good food!


90 doesn't hit Nebraska. South Dakota.
Whatever road you took, you're right about Nebraska. It has some of the
least populated counties in the U.S.
It's surreal driving through the sand hills.
Makes you wonder. I forget about what.


You're right. It was Rt.80 once I got to Illinois. (back a few years)


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