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On 3/18/2014 3:18 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. That's because you have so many of them. |
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On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. |
Spring is coming ...
On 3/18/14, 5:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. Wheelies! :) |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. |
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On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. |
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On 3/18/14, 6:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. On our recent trip to south Florida, we flew for about $225 each round trip, got the Exit Row seats, and got there in two hours and twenty minutes. Rented a car for the week for $198. Stayed in a four/five star hotel right on the beach for about $200 a night. Airfare, car rental and hotel for under $1800. I spent $20 to fill the car with gas when turning it in. Big, comfy RV, towed by a diesel truck...hmmm...about 1200 miles each way, total of 2400 miles getting there and back. 10-12 mpg, let's say 12. 200 gallons of diesel @4.00 a gallon. And that doesn't include wear and tear on your tow vehicle and trailer... $800+ for fuel. And all the wonderful sights along I-95. Blech. :) It's a 15 to 20 hour drive in a car. Been there, done that. So, a full day each way, and then you have to sleep for half a day when you get there or back. Three days lost in travel and aftermath of travel. Food on the road, three meals a day, at least $50 a day per person. Say $125 for food on the road. Six nights in a first-class beachfront RV park. That I don't know...but there were no such RV parks where we were. $75 a night? $500? And you really truly have to enjoy driving and driving and driving. I *hate* that. Yellowstone is about 2200 miles from here. Twice as far as Hollywood-Ft. Lauderdale. Oi! Different strokes, of course. But... Oi! |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:04:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. We kicked around buying a Class A for a couple months. I liked the idea of having a pickup and not having to tow a 'toad' for running around. We've been very happy with the Open Range fifth-wheel. Some friends traded in 5'er for a Winnebago Journey when we got our trailer. They're not happy, plus they spent about three times what we did - and we've got the truck *and* the trailer. I'm still thankful your wife wanted to keep the one you had on the Sprinter chassis. Don't remember which one it was. This 33'er is just the right size - and roomy enough to handle another couple as well. |
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On 3/18/2014 6:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:04:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. We kicked around buying a Class A for a couple months. I liked the idea of having a pickup and not having to tow a 'toad' for running around. We've been very happy with the Open Range fifth-wheel. Some friends traded in 5'er for a Winnebago Journey when we got our trailer. They're not happy, plus they spent about three times what we did - and we've got the truck *and* the trailer. I'm still thankful your wife wanted to keep the one you had on the Sprinter chassis. Don't remember which one it was. This 33'er is just the right size - and roomy enough to handle another couple as well. Lets see if I can remember all the RV "attempts" we had: First was a Fleetwood Bounder Class A. Brought it back to dealer after about 2-3 weeks. There was something seriously wrong with the front end on it. One of their mechanics test drove it and agreed. They offered to return all the $$ we paid. Instead, we paid more and went for the Pace Arrow Class A. I had remembered the name as being a quality rig from years past but didn't realize the name had been purchased by Fleetwood. It was a cheap Fleetwood with the "Pace Arrow" logo on it. I can't blame the flat tire on Fleetwood, but I *can* blame the side panels that started flapping in the breeze due to being held on with sheet rock screws screwed into wood strips that were glued to the frame. Then the brake line that let go. Then finding the generator gas line chaffing against the roughly cut frame. So, got rid of it before it fell apart or exploded. Had if for about a year, max. Next was a Chinook Glacier. That was a nice rig and quality built. By this time I was losing interest in the RV scene but Mrs.E. wanted one to go to horse competitions. She wasn't comfortable driving the Chinook (too big she said) so we got the Sprinter. I liked the Sprinter, but we very rarely used it. Meanwhile, my daughter and her family were into camping and convinced my wife and I plus my son and his wife/family to get trailers. So, we bought a 37' Raptor toy hauler fifth wheel, a Ford 350 diesel to pull it with and I set up the rear section to haul two motorcycles. That didn't last long. The rear section became a kennel for my wife's three Westies that she had at the time. We all made our first camping trip to someplace in New Hampshire and had the most miserable week I've ever had. Hot, humid, thunderstorms everyday and mosquitoes that could pick you up and fly away with you. I've told this story before, so I'll leave out the water leaks in my son's new fifth wheel and my return to New Hampshire in the middle of the night to rescue my daughter's family and trailer after the front end of their tow vehicle let go. By this time I had enough with the RV and "camping" scene. Put the fifth wheel up for sale and sold it to a couple who drove down from Canada. I like boats much better. |
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On 3/18/14, 7:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:04:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. We kicked around buying a Class A for a couple months. I liked the idea of having a pickup and not having to tow a 'toad' for running around. We've been very happy with the Open Range fifth-wheel. Some friends traded in 5'er for a Winnebago Journey when we got our trailer. They're not happy, plus they spent about three times what we did - and we've got the truck *and* the trailer. I'm still thankful your wife wanted to keep the one you had on the Sprinter chassis. Don't remember which one it was. This 33'er is just the right size - and roomy enough to handle another couple as well. Lets see if I can remember all the RV "attempts" we had: First was a Fleetwood Bounder Class A. Brought it back to dealer after about 2-3 weeks. There was something seriously wrong with the front end on it. One of their mechanics test drove it and agreed. They offered to return all the $$ we paid. Instead, we paid more and went for the Pace Arrow Class A. I had remembered the name as being a quality rig from years past but didn't realize the name had been purchased by Fleetwood. It was a cheap Fleetwood with the "Pace Arrow" logo on it. I can't blame the flat tire on Fleetwood, but I *can* blame the side panels that started flapping in the breeze due to being held on with sheet rock screws screwed into wood strips that were glued to the frame. Then the brake line that let go. Then finding the generator gas line chaffing against the roughly cut frame. So, got rid of it before it fell apart or exploded. Had if for about a year, max. Next was a Chinook Glacier. That was a nice rig and quality built. By this time I was losing interest in the RV scene but Mrs.E. wanted one to go to horse competitions. She wasn't comfortable driving the Chinook (too big she said) so we got the Sprinter. I liked the Sprinter, but we very rarely used it. Meanwhile, my daughter and her family were into camping and convinced my wife and I plus my son and his wife/family to get trailers. So, we bought a 37' Raptor toy hauler fifth wheel, a Ford 350 diesel to pull it with and I set up the rear section to haul two motorcycles. That didn't last long. The rear section became a kennel for my wife's three Westies that she had at the time. We all made our first camping trip to someplace in New Hampshire and had the most miserable week I've ever had. Hot, humid, thunderstorms everyday and mosquitoes that could pick you up and fly away with you. I've told this story before, so I'll leave out the water leaks in my son's new fifth wheel and my return to New Hampshire in the middle of the night to rescue my daughter's family and trailer after the front end of their tow vehicle let go. By this time I had enough with the RV and "camping" scene. Put the fifth wheel up for sale and sold it to a couple who drove down from Canada. I like boats much better. Reads like a really made "made for cable tv" unreality show. :) |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:25:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/18/14, 6:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/18/2014 5:40 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:03:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15 mpg. === There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of fuel economy under most conditions. I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat. I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht. === How long do your tires last? Don't know. They look new. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's $28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing. You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast? My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear. It's got 57,001 miles on it right now - most of those pulling that trailer. These tires are probably good for another 4-5K, but if we decide to take that trailer out to Yellowstone, which is in our thoughts, I wouldn't try it with this set. We tried the RV thing for a while. Just never got into it. The first TV and major trip was in a 36 or 37 foot Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. JiminFl should remember that one well. I bought it brand new and we were on our way to Florida, climbing some hills on Rt 84 in Virginia somewhere. All of a sudden I felt and heard an explosion but everything seemed fine. I stopped for gas and was checking to see what the noise came from. Discovered I must have caught a rock or something between the tires on one rear side. (It had duals on the back). Whatever I hit ripped a hole in the side wall of the inner tire and it was flat. It was in a pretty remote area with nothing but hills and farms around. Finally found a truck repair place and pulled in. Nice people but they had to special order a new tire so we camped in their parking lot for the night while they sent a guy to who knew where to pick up the tire. That was the first of several bad experiences with that piece of junk. Lost the brakes on it and had to be towed with a giant tow truck. I also discovered that the rubber fuel line for the generator was chaffing against a frame section that had been cut with a torch by the manufacturer of the RV and left rough and ragged. (They cut the frame to add an extension). Got rid of it fast. On our recent trip to south Florida, we flew for about $225 each round trip, got the Exit Row seats, and got there in two hours and twenty minutes. Rented a car for the week for $198. Stayed in a four/five star hotel right on the beach for about $200 a night. Airfare, car rental and hotel for under $1800. I spent $20 to fill the car with gas when turning it in. Big, comfy RV, towed by a diesel truck...hmmm...about 1200 miles each way, total of 2400 miles getting there and back. 10-12 mpg, let's say 12. 200 gallons of diesel @4.00 a gallon. And that doesn't include wear and tear on your tow vehicle and trailer... $800+ for fuel. And all the wonderful sights along I-95. Blech. :) It's a 15 to 20 hour drive in a car. Been there, done that. So, a full day each way, and then you have to sleep for half a day when you get there or back. Three days lost in travel and aftermath of travel. Food on the road, three meals a day, at least $50 a day per person. Say $125 for food on the road. Six nights in a first-class beachfront RV park. That I don't know...but there were no such RV parks where we were. $75 a night? $500? And you really truly have to enjoy driving and driving and driving. I *hate* that. Yellowstone is about 2200 miles from here. Twice as far as Hollywood-Ft. Lauderdale. Oi! Different strokes, of course. But... Oi! And you brag about your 'twin-dieseled, Volvo powered trawler. What a joke. I won't counter your silly argument. Not worth it. You like the view from 35,000 feet. I don't. |
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