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Mr. Luddite March 19th 14 02:39 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 9:57 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!


I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Again, different strokes for different folks. Some people enjoy driving
and having the options to stop and see things they would otherwise just
blow by.

It took us 13 days to make make the trip south on the boat to Florida.
I could have made it in 6 .. even 5 if we pushed it. We didn't want to
push it. We stopped and explored many interesting ports and places
along the way and had a hell of a good time doing so.
That was enjoyable to me.




H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 19th 14 03:07 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 10:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 9:57 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:



One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!


I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Again, different strokes for different folks. Some people enjoy driving
and having the options to stop and see things they would otherwise just
blow by.

It took us 13 days to make make the trip south on the boat to Florida. I
could have made it in 6 .. even 5 if we pushed it. We didn't want to
push it. We stopped and explored many interesting ports and places
along the way and had a hell of a good time doing so.
That was enjoyable to me.



Have you ever been up the yazoo? I didn't even know it existed before my
last trip.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 19th 14 03:12 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 10:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:17:46 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding inside a
towed RV?

On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.


Where did you ever get that notion? I have never felt the need to run
the generator underway.


I don't know why the guy had his running, but I do know the friends who bought the Winnebago Journey
use the generator to cool the rig. The little air conditioner in the 'cab' isn't sufficient when
driving where it's hot.

What year and size Journey?

Mr. Luddite March 19th 14 03:14 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 11:07 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/19/2014 10:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 9:57 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country
many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!

I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and saw all I really wanted to see of Kansas, Missouri,
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, the Dakotas, et cetera. On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Again, different strokes for different folks. Some people enjoy driving
and having the options to stop and see things they would otherwise just
blow by.

It took us 13 days to make make the trip south on the boat to Florida. I
could have made it in 6 .. even 5 if we pushed it. We didn't want to
push it. We stopped and explored many interesting ports and places
along the way and had a hell of a good time doing so.
That was enjoyable to me.



Have you ever been up the yazoo? I didn't even know it existed before my
last trip.


Never heard of it until you just mentioned it. Didn't know it existed
either.



Poco Loco March 19th 14 03:19 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:30:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:57:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!

I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and . On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Good. You undoubtedly saw everything worth seeing.


There you go again. I didn't say or imply I saw "everything worth
seeing" in that part of the Midwest and West. I said I saw everything I
*wanted* to see there.


I suppose I was just thinking a bit too 'abstractly'.


F*O*A*D March 19th 14 03:37 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:30:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:57:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!

I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and . On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Good. You undoubtedly saw everything worth seeing.


There you go again. I didn't say or imply I saw "everything worth
seeing" in that part of the Midwest and West. I said I saw everything I
*wanted* to see there.


I suppose I was just thinking a bit too 'abstractly'.



You were just being your usual obstreperous self here, thinking it
makes you appear clever. It doesn't. My guess is your abstract reasoning
abilities are obstructed, if they ever existed.
--
Rand Paul & Ted Cruz…your 2016 GOP nominees, because ‘Mericans deserve
crazy!

Poco Loco March 19th 14 03:49 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:12:50 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 10:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:17:46 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding inside a
towed RV?

On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.


Where did you ever get that notion? I have never felt the need to run
the generator underway.


I don't know why the guy had his running, but I do know the friends who bought the Winnebago Journey
use the generator to cool the rig. The little air conditioner in the 'cab' isn't sufficient when
driving where it's hot.

What year and size Journey?


It's a 2012, same as our trailer. I believe it's actually the Journey Express - 34', Diesel pusher.


Poco Loco March 19th 14 03:53 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:37:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:30:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:57:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/19/14, 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2014 8:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


One of the most enjoyable trips I have taken was driving to Denver, CO
via Rt. 90. I did so on a whim in the Ford F-350 diesel towing a car
trailer to pick up a 1955 Ford F-100 pickup that a guy had for sale.
Like many, I had flown back and forth over this part of the country many
times while working and making trips to the West coast but this was the
first time I could actually see what states like Iowa, Nebraska and
Colorado actually looked like at ground level.

Nebraska was strangely beautiful to me. I like being by myself and the
trip across that state certainly makes you feel alone and away from
everything. The only concern I had was fuel stops. There aren't many,
so you have to make sure you fuel up when you can. The one fuel stop I
found reminded me of an old, western stage stop or something. Friendly
people but I have no clue how they survived or made a living out there.

On the return trip I took Rt.80 east. I stopped at the World's Biggest
Truck Stop in Iowa. Interesting place. It has everything you can
imagine including huge shopping areas, doctors, dentists and damn good
food!

I spent some years attending college and working in that part of the
country and . On one assignment,
I spent a month on the road with a photographer writing and researching
a magazine story on small town rail stations that had been abandoned or
repurposed. We made a special effort to avoid "chain" restaurants and
motels. It was interesting. I liked the old M-K-T stations the best.

I spent a college Thanksgiving holiday at a buddy's farm in rural South
Dakota. Talk about cultural shock...sheesh. :)

I don't like driving long distances. These days, when I visit long-time
buddies in the New Haven area, I take Amtrak and rent a car when I get
there, and New Haven isn't that far of a drive, maybe 300 miles, a six
hour drive if you don't get nailed in the NYC area. It's four and a half
hours on the Acela, maybe an hour longer on the slower train.


Good. You undoubtedly saw everything worth seeing.


There you go again. I didn't say or imply I saw "everything worth
seeing" in that part of the Midwest and West. I said I saw everything I
*wanted* to see there.


I suppose I was just thinking a bit too 'abstractly'.



You were just being your usual obstreperous self here, thinking it
makes you appear clever. It doesn't. My guess is your abstract reasoning
abilities are obstructed, if they ever existed.


Harry, I don't need to appear anything here. That's why I don't embellish my obstreperous comments
with long-winded explanations to get me off the hook.

I honestly don't give a **** what you think or guess.


H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 19th 14 04:04 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/2014 11:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:12:50 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 10:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:17:46 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/19/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 7:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


One thing I *really* don't like about motorhomes is that the generator must be run to get any decent
cooling in the rig - even while going down the highway. We were passing one on I-95, just as we got
next to it, something made a loud 'bang' in the generator compartment. I think he blew the engine in
the thing. Scary.


On the other hand, isn't it illegal in many states to be riding inside a
towed RV?

On what other hand? Your question makes no sense in the context given.


Where did you ever get that notion? I have never felt the need to run
the generator underway.

I don't know why the guy had his running, but I do know the friends who bought the Winnebago Journey
use the generator to cool the rig. The little air conditioner in the 'cab' isn't sufficient when
driving where it's hot.

What year and size Journey?


It's a 2012, same as our trailer. I believe it's actually the Journey Express - 34', Diesel pusher.

Thanks. I'll remember that for when we go RV hunting again.

F*O*A*D March 19th 14 04:08 PM

Spring is coming ...
 
On 3/19/14, 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:44:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Even a long, slow boat ride down the ICW is better than a long, slow
drive down I-95. The beauty of the view from 35,000 feet is that within
the United States, it doesn't last very long. It's a six hour flight to
Jackson Hole. How long is the drive? 40-60 hours? :) Of course, if one
is "retired," time has little meaning.


I am retired and I still like to fly.
The difference I we like to fly up front.


If I'm paying and I can't get the exit row seats, I'll upgrade from
steerage to first class on a long flight, as in...to the left coast or
Europe or beyond. Being in a seat with no legroom only bothers me after
about three hours.

It's only the seat that I see as an advantage to first class. The
first-class food is just a bit pokey to me. I'd rather buy a decent
sandwich and snacks in the airport and carry it aboard.

The first time we flew to Hawaii was about a year before 9-11 and plane
security was lax. I spent most of the flight in the back of the plane,
standing up, having a few drinks and laughing it up with a bunch of guys
and the crew. Alas, the fun days of flying are long gone, and never to
return.

On the trains to New York and New Haven, the onboard snack bar is pretty
decent. We've taken the sleeping car to Florida and back a few times,
takes just a tad longer than driving in a car. The dining car meals are
far better than the first-class fare on the planes, and the meals are
included in the ticket price.

The only real problem on the east coast sleepers is that the trackage is
absolutely miserable. The train cars rock and roll the entire way, and
there are so many crossings, the train whistle seems to blow every 30
seconds. So I keep the in-ear earphone plugs from my iPod in my ears the
entire way. It muffles about 90% of the noise.

Florida remains a great place to rent a car. I got a full-sized almost
new Chrysler sedan for a week for less than $200. The car rental
facility that serves the Ft. Lauderdale airport, however, just plain
stinks.




--
Rand Paul & Ted Cruz…your 2016 GOP nominees, because ‘Mericans deserve
crazy!


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