On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:38:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:11:11 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Rancorous, FOAD? Jealous? Something's eating at you, almost continuously. Wonder what it could be?

===

It's always about envy.

I really believe it is.

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote:

My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have.

===

Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last
week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/browse/p...adcopter-47522

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote:

On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B

There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content.

I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various
transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries
and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a
minimum.

But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug.

===

This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a
spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that
contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a
magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial
navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The
retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small
step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could
learn to fly in very little time.

Like this?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3

Note the review.

Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY

===

Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well
past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on
real helicopters.


My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you
want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it.
The camera is scary.

He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready"
and he has a bad assed Samsung.



I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera
isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will
come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but
it's expensive...

===

I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and
this capable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A

Interesting stuff.

You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby.

http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:14 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote:

On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B

There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content.

I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various
transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries
and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a
minimum.

But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug.

===

This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a
spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that
contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a
magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial
navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The
retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small
step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could
learn to fly in very little time.

Like this?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3

Note the review.

Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY

===

Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well
past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on
real helicopters.


My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you
want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it.
The camera is scary.

He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready"
and he has a bad assed Samsung.



I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera
isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will
come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but
it's expensive...

===

I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and
this capable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A

Interesting stuff.

You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby.

http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/

===

I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed.

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:46:59 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote:

My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have.

===

Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last
week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/browse/p...adcopter-47522

===

The one I saw last weekend looked like this:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/350-qx2-ap-combo-rtf-with-safe-technology-BLH7900

It was very stable and hovered for a long time. It definitely had a
camera that looked the same also. Pricey toy! :-)

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:05:08 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:46:59 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote:

My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have.

===

Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last
week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/browse/p...adcopter-47522

===

The one I saw last weekend looked like this:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/350-qx2-ap-combo-rtf-with-safe-technology-BLH7900

It was very stable and hovered for a long time. It definitely had a
camera that looked the same also. Pricey toy! :-)

A lot is going in to that camera - which is a video transmitter also.

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:01:39 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:14 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote:

On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B

There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content.

I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various
transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries
and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a
minimum.

But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug.

===

This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a
spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that
contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a
magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial
navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The
retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small
step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could
learn to fly in very little time.

Like this?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3

Note the review.

Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY

===

Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well
past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on
real helicopters.


My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you
want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it.
The camera is scary.

He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready"
and he has a bad assed Samsung.



I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera
isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will
come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but
it's expensive...

===

I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and
this capable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A

Interesting stuff.

You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby.

http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/

===

I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed.

Not sure what you mean by remote video feed. This one allows operation of the camera by the
transmitter - for only $150. Scroll down for a demo.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-BLH7480

Start cheap.

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:26:03 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:01:39 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:14 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote:

On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B

There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content.

I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various
transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries
and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a
minimum.

But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug.

===

This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a
spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that
contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a
magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial
navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The
retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small
step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could
learn to fly in very little time.

Like this?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3

Note the review.

Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY

===

Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well
past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on
real helicopters.


My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you
want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it.
The camera is scary.

He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready"
and he has a bad assed Samsung.



I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera
isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will
come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but
it's expensive...

===

I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and
this capable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A

Interesting stuff.

You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby.

http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/

===

I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed.

Not sure what you mean by remote video feed. This one allows operation of the camera by the
transmitter - for only $150. Scroll down for a demo.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-BLH7480

Start cheap.

===

Probably good advice. :-)

The one that you linked to will record video and store it in the
camera but does not send it back to the ground (remote feed).

How long will it stay aloft? Learning time to fly it competently?
Maximum range?

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 23:03:33 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:01:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed.

Henk wants me to take him and his wife to Doc Ford's again. Maybe you
could meet us there and talk to him.

===

Anytime (except Wednesdays), just give me a little advance lead time.

On 3/4/2014 10:59 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote:

My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like
something the NSA should have.

===

Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last
week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost?

Not a clue but I think he bought it in Germany. I know he still
tinkers with it a lot. This guy designs medical equipment and he was
working on the camera gimbal the last I heard, changing from a stepper
to a closed loop servo so it would pan smoother.



I don't see the advantage of a servo motor over a stepper in this
application.