On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:37:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:31 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:19:04 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:12:14 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:55:11 -0600, HanK wrote:

On 2/26/2014 8:03 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.

Amazing. Again you play your race card for no apparent reason.

And it hurts so badly.


Oh, I am sure your racism will rear its ugly head again here, as will
your homophobia and hatred of Mexicans.

You mean my racism, homophobia, and hatred of Mexicans haven't reared their ugly heads *yet*.

Then why all your intellectual name-calling?


Not yet, again. You've many times revealed your racism, homophobia and
hatred of Mexicans.

You need to add 'woman raping and baby killing' to your list.


I'm not away of the feelings you haven't yet expressed here.

Not away, Mr. Literate?

You're the one who made the accusations. You spend so much time chasing your tail you forget where
you start.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:32:42 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage

In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html

Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door, finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch. You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.


You don't know whether the home was invaded, and it is unlikely you know
what constitutes a home invasion.

But, hey, I already know you ain't too bright.

You're probably right. I'm sure you read better than I do, so you found the sentence that describes
the aggressors entered the house.

You are so brilliant, foad!!

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:22:02 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage


In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html


Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony.

Bull****, as usual.


When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.

Unless the person sticks a shotgun out the window.

On 2/26/2014 11:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage



In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html



Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to
retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony. When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.




That's all fine and good but you didn't address my question. If
someone breaks into your house but immediately says, "I am not here to
hurt you, I just want money and jewelry"... do you have the legal right
to shoot him?

The Castle laws are a stand your ground law that applies in your home.
To my knowledge you still have to have to have a genuine fear of
imminent death or great bodily harm to justify shooting the intruder.

If this is true, I don't see what the difference is between being in
danger of death of great bodily harm in your house, outside the house,
down the street or at the supermarket.

On 2/26/2014 10:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage



In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html



Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to
retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony. When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.


Apparently you still don't understand. That's not indicative of superior
intellect.

On 2/26/2014 10:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 11:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage




In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html




Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just
itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a
home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the
homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to
retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony. When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.




That's all fine and good but you didn't address my question. If
someone breaks into your house but immediately says, "I am not here to
hurt you, I just want money and jewelry"... do you have the legal right
to shoot him?

The Castle laws are a stand your ground law that applies in your home.
To my knowledge you still have to have to have a genuine fear of
imminent death or great bodily harm to justify shooting the intruder.

If this is true, I don't see what the difference is between being in
danger of death of great bodily harm in your house, outside the house,
down the street or at the supermarket.


Are you playing "rope a dope" with Harry again?

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:35:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/26/2014 11:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 11:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2014 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 10:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:02:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:56 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:03:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:48:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8Sbf_piIQQ?feature=player_detailpage



In the 3600 block of Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, MD, no less.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Retired-Police-Officer-Shoots-Kills-Man-in-Apparent-Attempted-Home-Invasion-200975181.html



Very surprising our vociferous, anti-stand-your-ground, gun nut
didn't tell us about this. Damn near
in this back yard, after all.


Just more proof of my posit that you really don't comprehend what
you read.

It wasn't anything like a Florida "stand your ground" incident.

It was an attempted home invasion, to wit:

"A retired D.C. police officer shot and killed a man during an
apparent
attempted home invasion in Calvert County, Md., Sunday night, and
detectives arrested a woman they found at the deceased's
residence in Lusby.

"The incident began shortly before 10:30 p.m., when the former
officer
heard several loud bangs on his front door in the 3600 block of
Harlequin Court in Huntingtown, according to the Calvert County
Sheriff’s Office. He grabbed a handgun and answered the door,
finding
two people there.

"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements
toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

There was no kid walking through the neighborhood with a soft
drink and
a bag of candy.

There were no kids in the next car at a gas station playing their
music
too loud.

From your many racist and hate-filled posts here and your
inability to
comprehend what you read, I wonder if you have a personality
suitable to
own a firearm. You come across as a snarly hothead, just itching to
shoot a black kid.


Did the homeowner retreat? Nope. Did the homeowner react to a
threat? Yup. Did the homeowner stand
his ground? Yup.

None of your insults or name-calling change the facts, foad!


The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about. It was a home
invasion.

There was no home invasion. There was a threat on the front porch.
You need to read for
comprehension, or, better yet, go watch the movie Wayne posted for
you. Watch it about three times.
Note the racist reference to a 'hoodie'.




"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I don't watch Wayne****.

Was the home invaded? No. Ergo, it was no home invasion, as you
erroneously claimed. The 'aggressive
movements' were made in the same direction as those made by your soft
drink carrying, candy eating,
aggressor that was shot by Zimmerman - towards the person who was
standing his ground.

Call more names, it makes you more credible.



Question:

Someone successfully breaks into a house banishing some sort of weapon,
runs into the homeowner but immediately says, "I am not here to hurt
anyone, I just want to take your money and some jewelry".

It is a home invasion. Does the homeowner have a legal right to shoot
the intruder?

I think this is at the root of stand your ground controversy. The
Castle Laws really only say you don't have a duty to retreat while in
your home. In other words, you have the right to stand your ground. But
what does that mean? Do you still have to prove that you felt you were
in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm as a defense for
opening fire?

If yes, then I don't see what the difference is between a stand your
ground statute outside of your home that applies anywhere versus one
that applies only if you are in your home.

The Massachusetts Castle law used to be valid only at night. During
nighttime hours you could stand your ground in your home and use deadly
force if in fear of your life or serious bodily harm (or that to others
occupying the house). During daylight hours you were obligated to
retreat.

The statute has been changed to include all hours of the day.









There's little question that someone busting into your house is a
threat. There's no proof that Zimmerman and Dunn were responding to a
threat...there's just their testimony. When someone is in your house
committing a robbery, there's little question of the threat. When
someone is parked near you at a gas station and playing music loudly,
there's no perceivable threat, except, perhaps, to your ears.




That's all fine and good but you didn't address my question. If
someone breaks into your house but immediately says, "I am not here to
hurt you, I just want money and jewelry"... do you have the legal right
to shoot him?

If you tell him to drop the weapon and he doesn't do so, then he's a threat. I'd shoot him, perhaps
not to kill, but to be sure he can't get to me with the weapon. And, if I missed and killed him,
then I'd not mention that the armed, home invader said he wasn't going to hurt me.


The Castle laws are a stand your ground law that applies in your home.
To my knowledge you still have to have to have a genuine fear of
imminent death or great bodily harm to justify shooting the intruder.

If this is true, I don't see what the difference is between being in
danger of death of great bodily harm in your house, outside the house,
down the street or at the supermarket.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:01:21 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I wonder what "the weapon" was. I notice they avoided saying "gun".

Is this another cop shooting someone reaching for his wallet?

Go watch Wayne's movie.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:17:51 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:32:42 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



You don't know whether the home was invaded, and it is unlikely you know
what constitutes a home invasion.

Home invasion implies they actually came into the house. He shot these
guys on the front porch.
If he wasn't a cop, he probably would have been charged.

I can see why you guys are so nervous tho.
Your murder rate is 21% higher than it is in Florida

6.3 vs 5.2 per 100,000
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...nd-state#MRord

Harry is the one calling it a 'home invasion'. It was actually a stand your ground case, right there
in Huntingtown, MD, and Harry should have told us about it. There might even be a red barn in the
background somewhere.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:12:37 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:01:21 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:14:08 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


"One brandished a weapon and both made aggressive movements toward the
homeowner, who fired shots at them in fear of his life."

Aggressive movements in what direction, dopey? Towards the homeowner on
the other side of the door. Home invasion.

I wonder what "the weapon" was. I notice they avoided saying "gun".

Is this another cop shooting someone reaching for his wallet?

Go watch Wayne's movie.

I saw it and it is clear this cop knows how to testify. I did wonder
how his Walther suddenly became a Glock. Was he carrying 2 guns?

He did seem to be trying to justify shooting at a fleeing vehicle.

He ran out of ammo in one and got the other from his closet, IIRC.