On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.


How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which
civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as
the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for
'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power
to you...



Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations
of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and
planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the
Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said
he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was
forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the
solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his
teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,
that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who
believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without
question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.

After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was
denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.



Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe.

On 2/17/14, 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for
thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.


How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which
civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as
the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for
'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power
to you...



Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations
of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and
planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the
Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said
he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was
forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the
solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his
teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,
that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who
believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without
question a testament to the thousands of years of religious
misinformation.

After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was
denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.



Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe.



Oh, and I forgot to mention, Galileo was a liberal arts student.

On 2/17/2014 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for
thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.


How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which
civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as
the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for
'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power
to you...



Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations
of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and
planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the
Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said
he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was
forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the
solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his
teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,
that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who
believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without
question a testament to the thousands of years of religious
misinformation.

After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was
denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.



Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe.



Ironic to hear that from you.. You are just like harry, only without the
lies....

In article , says...

On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.


How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which
civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as
the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for
'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power
to you...



Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations
of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and
planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the
Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said
he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was
forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the
solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his
teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,
that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who
believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without
question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.

After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was
denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.



Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe.

I am the center of my universe.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:







You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply



religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of



years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is



something I don't know.





How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..



Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....



But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you...







Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations

of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and

planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the

Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said

he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was

forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the

solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his

teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.



So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,

that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who

believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without

question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.



After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was

denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.

You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago.

On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:







You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply



religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of



years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is



something I don't know.





How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..



Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....



But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you...







Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations

of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and

planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the

Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said

he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was

forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the

solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his

teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.



So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,

that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who

believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without

question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.



After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was

denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.

You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago.



It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude.

On 2/17/14, 4:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:







You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply



religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of



years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is



something I don't know.





How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..



Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....



But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you...







Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations

of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and

planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the

Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said

he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was

forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the

solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his

teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.



So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,

that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who

believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without

question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.



After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was

denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.

You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago.



You are the one who mentioned the ancient Egyptians...I merely was
indicating that it was religious ignorance from before then to well
after the death of Galileo that keep the belief of the sun revolving
around the earth...alive.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:50:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:13:58 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth


This one might be one of the most disturbing stories you'll hear all
day. Does the sun revolve around the Earth, or does the Earth revolve
around the sun?

The National Science Foundation posed this question to 2,200 Americans
back in 2012. The results were published Friday and 26 percent of people
surveyed believe the sun moves around the Earth. (Via Discovery)

"The foundation says that's frightening, claiming that is why this
nation needs more money invested in teaching science in school." (Via KUSI)

The survey is conducted every few years to monitor America's educational
progress. But maybe you don't think 26 percent is too much to be worried
about. (Via National Science Foundation)

Well, lets bring you back down to Earth, aka what some believe is the
center of the universe. CNET writes, about "52 percent of Americans had
no idea that humans evolved from animal species. This may be the 52
percent of people who believe that mayonnaise comes from the mayo plant."

Back to the whole Earth-sun thing, those who answered the question wrong
are more than late to the game — the first notion of Heliocentrism was
around the third century B.C.

http://tinyurl.com/ma9sl8a

- - -
The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is a deeply religious
concept...

I would not leap to the conclusion that this is a religious thing
without having more information about other answers on the survey (can
they name the president or which continent we live on) and whether
these people came from a religious education or simply a product of
the horrible public schools we have in most places,

He forgot to mention that Americans did better than Europeans on this question.

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind1...pter-7/c07.pdf