On 2/17/2014 11:17 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 10:30 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 10:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth


This one might be one of the most disturbing stories you'll hear all
day. Does the sun revolve around the Earth, or does the Earth revolve
around the sun?

The National Science Foundation posed this question to 2,200 Americans
back in 2012. The results were published Friday and 26 percent of
people
surveyed believe the sun moves around the Earth. (Via Discovery)

"The foundation says that's frightening, claiming that is why this
nation needs more money invested in teaching science in school." (Via
KUSI)

The survey is conducted every few years to monitor America's
educational
progress. But maybe you don't think 26 percent is too much to be
worried
about. (Via National Science Foundation)

Well, lets bring you back down to Earth, aka what some believe is the
center of the universe. CNET writes, about "52 percent of Americans
had
no idea that humans evolved from animal species. This may be the 52
percent of people who believe that mayonnaise comes from the mayo
plant."

Back to the whole Earth-sun thing, those who answered the question
wrong
are more than late to the game — the first notion of Heliocentrism was
around the third century B.C.

http://tinyurl.com/ma9sl8a

- - -
The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is a deeply religious
concept...


or maybe too many liberal arts courses and not enough science and
technology. :-)





Once again, the liberal arts include all sorts of science and math
classes and, among them, astronomy.


The younger of my daughter's two boys (Ben) is 14 years old. He's a
smart kid, very interested in science and technology related subjects.
During a recent parent/teacher conference his science teacher told my
daughter that he's "weird", but didn't mean it in a derogatory sense.
The teacher explained that Ben is very quiet, doesn't ask many questions
or participate much in classroom discussions but he aces or near aces
every test and exam.

We were just talking last night about this so I challenged Ben with the
same question about riding a bicycle or motorcycle in a straight line at
a speed of about 20 mph and applying slight forward pressure on one of
the handlebars. That prompted quite a discussion (as it did here) but
he got the principle fairly quickly. So, to get him into some
classroom discussion in school, I suggested that he ask his science
teacher the same question when they go back to school after February
vacation. He can't wait. This should be interesting.



Well, the the 20 mph part might make things easier to compare I must
admit.. Tell him to also ask his teacher about using weight shift
instead of the bars to make the same maneuvers...


Ummm... no. I don't think I will. As before, it has nothing to do with
the question.

On 2/17/2014 8:17 AM, KC wrote:

Well, the the 20 mph part might make things easier to compare I must
admit.. Tell him to also ask his teacher about using weight shift
instead of the bars to make the same maneuvers...

I missed your reply on whether you throw your torso side to side to
avoid a slight handlebar nudge or if you ride a custom bike without
those needless handlebars?

In article , says...

1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth

This is do to the teachers and their unions caring more about their benefits and retirement
than their primary duty, the educaton of the USA's youth.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:40:15 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth

This is do to the teachers and their unions caring more about their benefits and retirement
than their primary duty, the educaton of the USA's youth.



They should also have asked if those Americans had union or non-union teachers.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:13:58 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth

You should get Don to add 'anti-religious' to his 'fixation' list.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 11:52:31 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:13:58 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth



You should get Don to add 'anti-religious' to his 'fixation' list.

He's not smart enough to be " fixated " on anything but a Mop.

Only in forward as well. We all know he cant even back up a trailered Boat.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 9:13:58 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is a deeply religious

concept...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Hank Johnson thought that Guam would tip over. I suppose that's a product of a 'deeply religious concept' as well

On 2/17/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:13:58 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth


This one might be one of the most disturbing stories you'll hear all
day. Does the sun revolve around the Earth, or does the Earth revolve
around the sun?

The National Science Foundation posed this question to 2,200 Americans
back in 2012. The results were published Friday and 26 percent of people
surveyed believe the sun moves around the Earth. (Via Discovery)

"The foundation says that's frightening, claiming that is why this
nation needs more money invested in teaching science in school." (Via KUSI)

The survey is conducted every few years to monitor America's educational
progress. But maybe you don't think 26 percent is too much to be worried
about. (Via National Science Foundation)

Well, lets bring you back down to Earth, aka what some believe is the
center of the universe. CNET writes, about "52 percent of Americans had
no idea that humans evolved from animal species. This may be the 52
percent of people who believe that mayonnaise comes from the mayo plant."

Back to the whole Earth-sun thing, those who answered the question wrong
are more than late to the game — the first notion of Heliocentrism was
around the third century B.C.

http://tinyurl.com/ma9sl8a

- - -
The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is a deeply religious
concept...

I would not leap to the conclusion that this is a religious thing
without having more information about other answers on the survey (can
they name the president or which continent we live on) and whether
these people came from a religious education or simply a product of
the horrible public schools we have in most places,



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply
religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of
years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is
something I don't know.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.

How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you...

On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply

religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of

years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is

something I don't know.


How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way..

Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again....

But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you...



Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations
of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and
planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the
Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said
he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was
forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the
solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his
teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo,
that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who
believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without
question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation.

After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was
denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance.