On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:57:29 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/23/14, 1:17 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:53:02 -0500, "Earl! " . wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

The state's politicians poisoned the well with direct and indirect
threats to jobs.
Cite?

It is another stretch of the facts from Harry. What the state said is
they *might* rethink FUTURE tax incentives for NEW plants. It had
nothing to do with current employees.


Uh-huh, sure, Gregg. Right. Of course. And Senator Corker didn't play a
role at the end, either, and the workers weren't left with the
impression that if they voted union the state might play fun and games
with their employer. Well, we shall see what happens. Corker said if the
workers voted no, VW would be building another plant in their state
then...he reneged on that statement after the vote, and that had nothing
to do with the vote, either. Luckily, VW's workers in Germany will have
something to say about future plants in the United States.

I'm sure they'll choose to go to Detroit. After all, the experienced workers are all there, eh?

On 2/23/14, 10:15 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:57:29 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/23/14, 1:17 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:53:02 -0500, "Earl! " . wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

The state's politicians poisoned the well with direct and indirect
threats to jobs.
Cite?

It is another stretch of the facts from Harry. What the state said is
they *might* rethink FUTURE tax incentives for NEW plants. It had
nothing to do with current employees.


Uh-huh, sure, Gregg. Right. Of course. And Senator Corker didn't play a
role at the end, either, and the workers weren't left with the
impression that if they voted union the state might play fun and games
with their employer. Well, we shall see what happens. Corker said if the
workers voted no, VW would be building another plant in their state
then...he reneged on that statement after the vote, and that had nothing
to do with the vote, either. Luckily, VW's workers in Germany will have
something to say about future plants in the United States.

I'm sure they'll choose to go to Detroit. After all, the experienced workers are all there, eh?


Matters not to me where they go, so long as it isn't an anti-worker state.

On 2/23/14, 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:57:29 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/23/14, 1:17 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:53:02 -0500, "Earl! " . wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

The state's politicians poisoned the well with direct and indirect
threats to jobs.
Cite?

It is another stretch of the facts from Harry. What the state said is
they *might* rethink FUTURE tax incentives for NEW plants. It had
nothing to do with current employees.


Uh-huh, sure, Gregg. Right. Of course. And Senator Corker didn't play a
role at the end, either, and the workers weren't left with the
impression that if they voted union the state might play fun and games
with their employer. Well, we shall see what happens. Corker said if the
workers voted no, VW would be building another plant in their state
then...he reneged on that statement after the vote, and that had nothing
to do with the vote, either. Luckily, VW's workers in Germany will have
something to say about future plants in the United States.

Do you have any facts or are you just repeating the UAW talking
points?



Corker's statements and retractions were widely reported.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.

On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

In article , says...

On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

Can't blame the politicians.
It was the workers who voted the union down.

On 2/15/14, 5:54 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

Can't blame the politicians.
It was the workers who voted the union down.




Do you know what the politicians there were threatening, including a
U.S. Senator, if the workers voted to go union?

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:57:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/15/14, 5:54 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

Can't blame the politicians.
It was the workers who voted the union down.




Do you know what the politicians there were threatening, including a
U.S. Senator, if the workers voted to go union?

By all means, tell us. But, be sure to tell us what the unions were telling the workers also.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/15/14, 5:54 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon
those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened
the economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating
model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the
UAW Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed
with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

Can't blame the politicians.
It was the workers who voted the union down.




Do you know what the politicians there were threatening, including a
U.S. Senator, if the workers voted to go union?
Do you? That would have been all over the news.

On 2/15/2014 5:39 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/15/14, 5:26 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:41:52 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/lp99as6

Damn shame. That'll put some folks in a real sour mood. I reckon
those Southerners aren't so stupid
after all.

Perhaps the union organizer said it best:

"Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the
economic future of this facility
and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating
model that would grow jobs in
Tennessee," UAW Southern Region organizer Gary Casteel said."

Those damn politically motivated third parties. Of course, the UAW
Southern Region is in no way
politically motivated.

Right, FOAD?

It appears that they rejected the idea of a union that was in bed with
the company they were working for. That is the way unions are in most
of those foreign country union people like to cite.

It's a young "workforce."
They make more money than the GM, Ford or Chrysler workers.
As long as they are well-treated by management, they're ok.
That's how all the foreign brands keep the union out.
It works, and will continue to work until workers are mistreated.


The ultimate goal of right-wing politicians in right to work states is
to break unions and the union movement so businesses can lower pay and
benefits to workers. It has nothing to do with the right to work.

Are you sure about that?