On 2/14/14, 11:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:52:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 9:45 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:40:54 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 7:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote
Judge Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that
Virginia must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally
in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending
the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions
in the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a
man and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the
Fourth Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West
Virginia. (Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)
Why is this important to you above most all other current event?

Any state trying to preserve the normal marriage is screwed up.

Perhaps you can explain how extending marriage rights to gays impacts
what you believe is "normal" marriage.

The union of two men or two women or two transsexuals or same-sex transvestites, or whatever, can
only *help* those folks in a normal marriage. Population reduction would be a good thing. Reduced
population would reduce the global warming trend, school crowding, welfare to families with
dependant children, and on and on. The 'Same Sex Union Tax Credit' (SSUTC) is a great idea!



You seem to forget Virginia's long and sordid history of interference in
privacy rights and marriages. Do you recall Loving v. Virginia? In that
case, the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated your state's prohibition
against interracial marriage. Your last governor wanted to subject women
who wanted abortions to ultrasound probes.

Backwards.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:07:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 11:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:52:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 9:45 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:40:54 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 7:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote
Judge Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that
Virginia must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally
in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending
the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions
in the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a
man and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the
Fourth Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West
Virginia. (Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)
Why is this important to you above most all other current event?

Any state trying to preserve the normal marriage is screwed up.

Perhaps you can explain how extending marriage rights to gays impacts
what you believe is "normal" marriage.

The union of two men or two women or two transsexuals or same-sex transvestites, or whatever, can
only *help* those folks in a normal marriage. Population reduction would be a good thing. Reduced
population would reduce the global warming trend, school crowding, welfare to families with
dependant children, and on and on. The 'Same Sex Union Tax Credit' (SSUTC) is a great idea!



You seem to forget Virginia's long and sordid history of interference in
privacy rights and marriages. Do you recall Loving v. Virginia? In that
case, the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated your state's prohibition
against interracial marriage. Your last governor wanted to subject women
who wanted abortions to ultrasound probes.

Backwards.

Screw my state's prohibition! My position is just above your last paragraph. What part of it don't
you like?

We're discussing marriage and unions here, not the killing of babies.

On 2/14/2014 12:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 11:10 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:52:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 9:45 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:40:54 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 7:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal
reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the
South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote
Judge Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all
of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that
Virginia must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out
legally
in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the
decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in
Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling
pending
the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must
honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the
ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the
repercussions
in the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a
man and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the
Fourth Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West
Virginia. (Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage
in 2012.)
Why is this important to you above most all other current event?

Any state trying to preserve the normal marriage is screwed up.

Perhaps you can explain how extending marriage rights to gays impacts
what you believe is "normal" marriage.

The union of two men or two women or two transsexuals or same-sex
transvestites, or whatever, can
only *help* those folks in a normal marriage. Population reduction
would be a good thing. Reduced
population would reduce the global warming trend, school crowding,
welfare to families with
dependant children, and on and on. The 'Same Sex Union Tax Credit'
(SSUTC) is a great idea!



You seem to forget Virginia's long and sordid history of interference in
privacy rights and marriages. Do you recall Loving v. Virginia? In that
case, the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated your state's prohibition
against interracial marriage. Your last governor wanted to subject women
who wanted abortions to ultrasound probes.

Backwards.

Can't get enough traction with gay rights. Change the topic to racism,
your favorite topic. That always works. Eh Krausie.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,� wrote Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.�

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people very happy
with the court rulings.

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,� wrote Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.�

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

I think same-sex bigamy or polygamy should be allowed, nay, encouraged. They also should receive the
Same Sex Union Tax Credit, for their aid in population and global warming control.

On 2/14/2014 8:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

I think same-sex bigamy or polygamy should be allowed, nay, encouraged. They also should receive the
Same Sex Union Tax Credit, for their aid in population and global warming control.


I still don't like the idea of giving up the word marriage... but I
think the times and the constant pounding since the 80's on conservative
thought by the Clintonian thought police has finally taken it's toll on
the country...

On 2/14/14, 9:55 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 8:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal
reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the
South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote
Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that
Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in
other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the
decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling
pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the
ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the
repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately
file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no
right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people
very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

I think same-sex bigamy or polygamy should be allowed, nay,
encouraged. They also should receive the
Same Sex Union Tax Credit, for their aid in population and global
warming control.


I still don't like the idea of giving up the word marriage... but I
think the times and the constant pounding since the 80's on conservative
thought by the Clintonian thought police has finally taken it's toll on
the country...


"Conservative thought..."

The very definition of oxymoron.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:55:14 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

I think same-sex bigamy or polygamy should be allowed, nay, encouraged. They also should receive the
Same Sex Union Tax Credit, for their aid in population and global warming control.


I still don't like the idea of giving up the word marriage... but I
think the times and the constant pounding since the 80's on conservative
thought by the Clintonian thought police has finally taken it's toll on
the country...

Don't give up the word 'marriage'. The normal marriage will still exist and be the 'norm' (even
though Harry wouldn't like that). The same-sex union folks can call their thing a marriage, union,
joining, domestic partnership...whatever the hell they want to call 'it. The primary definition of
marriage, according to Merriam-Webster is "a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the
opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

But, who gives a ****? The 'other' unions should be *encouraged* not discouraged, simply for their
beneficent effects on population control and global warming.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:09:53 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 9:55 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 8:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
Federal Judge Overturns Virginia’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By ERIK ECKHOLMFEB. 14, 2014
NY Times


A federal judge on Thursday evening declared that Virginia’s ban on
same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, in the strongest legal
reversal
yet of restrictive marriage amendments that exist throughout the
South.

“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal,” wrote
Judge
Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern
District of Virginia, in Norfolk. “Surely this means all of us.”

The ruling, which overturned a constitutional amendment adopted by
Virginia voters in 2006 as well as previous laws, also said that
Virginia
must respect same-sex marriages that were carried out legally in
other states.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have vowed to appeal the
decision to
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond,
and Judge Wright Allen stayed the execution of Thursday’s ruling
pending the appeal.

This week, a federal judge in Kentucky ruled that the state must honor
same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, but the
ruling did
not address Kentucky’s own ban on such marriages.

If the Court of Appeals upholds Thursday’s decision, the
repercussions in
the South could be wide. Similar amendments limiting marriage to a man
and a woman would most likely be voided in other states of the Fourth
Circuit, including North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia.
(Maryland, the fifth member, approved same-sex marriage in 2012.)

If a person had been convicted of Bigamy, they should immediately
file for
reversal of the conviction. The court is saying the state has no
right to
say what a marriage is. Should be a lot of Southern Utah people
very happy
with the court rulings.



I'm sure you must think you have some sort of logic behind your claim
that bigamy convictions should be reversed. The recent rulings address
the fact that the state has no business limiting marriage to a male and
female...it does not address the issue of whether an individual may be
married to more than one partner at a time.

I think same-sex bigamy or polygamy should be allowed, nay,
encouraged. They also should receive the
Same Sex Union Tax Credit, for their aid in population and global
warming control.


I still don't like the idea of giving up the word marriage... but I
think the times and the constant pounding since the 80's on conservative
thought by the Clintonian thought police has finally taken it's toll on
the country...


"Conservative thought..."

The very definition of oxymoron.

Do you disagree with a 'Same Sex Union Tax Credit'?