On 2/13/2014 5:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:49:27 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:33 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:14:39 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:11 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:09:49 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 11:02 AM, KC wrote:
...global warming in decades moves across the south

You don't understand the concept.

He's talking about global warming, not countersteering.


Still waiting for you to show me one bike in that link with the front
tire turned away from the radius, and the rear tire tracking outside of
the radius of the front... But turns out talking to Dick, even though
he can't see through the red eyes, is we were talking about two
different things. He was talking about pushing a bar going down a
straight road, I was talking about taking a corner...

Answered. "front tire turned away from the radius, and the rear tire tracking outside of
the radius of the front" makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. The driver of every one of
those bikes is using countersteering to turn the bike and keep it turning. Amen.

Go back to your own vids.. or ask Dick.. They absolutly are not "using
countersteering to.... keep it turning".. The guy in the first link made
that quite clear that "the counter-steer initiates the turn but the gyro
forces immediately correct "....his words, not mine... Amen...



I provided two videos on countersteering. There is all kinds of information on the physics and
geometry of motorcycles and how they turn available on the net.


I made it all up.


No John... you just missed one little part. The countersteer is only for
a split second, "the countersteer is a way to lean the bike". but then
it corrects and you "go through" the turn steering. Another good quote I
read that may help was. "You can countersteer to lean a bike, or you can
lean a bike to countersteer".. but again, unless you are sliding your
back tire "through" the turn, you are not countersteering "through" the
turn.

On the other hand one part I missed was "you have to countersteer to
start your turn". After that again, after the "gyro correction", you are
steering, or sliding