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Windows XP end of support
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. It's kind of naive to assume that everything on a computer is going to work as expected all the time. I know how the problem with my Canon device manifested itself to me, but I don't know what the cause was. The Apple guys looked over some files I sent them and sent me a fix. It probably will show up in the next fix release from Apple. It's funny you bring this up, experience Windoze user that you are. Microsoft releases dozens and dozens of updates all the time, some for security reasons, some to fix glitches, and some to resolve issues such as the one I had. Once in a while, my wife asks me to provide "tech support" for her Windoze desktop computer in her home office. It's a decent "Dell" machine, about a year old, with a i5 CPU and, if memory serves, either six or eight GBs of RAM. The usual problem is that a plain vanilla bit of hardware, one of her printers or her scanner, is misbehaving for some reason or another, or her system has decided to spit up and forget her VPN settings. Fortunately, I remember enough about Windoze to fix this sort of crap for her, but not always. But, hey, it's Windoze...and everything "performs as advertised without having to call AppleCare." Fortunately, I have people other than the non-English speakers at Microsoft to call when her computer plays stump the band on me. "To fix that Windoze issue, just reinstall Windoze." My personal favorite. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. It's kind of naive to assume that everything on a computer is going to work as expected all the time. I know how the problem with my Canon device manifested itself to me, but I don't know what the cause was. The Apple guys looked over some files I sent them and sent me a fix. It probably will show up in the next fix release from Apple. It's funny you bring this up, experience Windoze user that you are. Microsoft releases dozens and dozens of updates all the time, some for security reasons, some to fix glitches, and some to resolve issues such as the one I had. Once in a while, my wife asks me to provide "tech support" for her Windoze desktop computer in her home office. It's a decent "Dell" machine, about a year old, with a i5 CPU and, if memory serves, either six or eight GBs of RAM. The usual problem is that a plain vanilla bit of hardware, one of her printers or her scanner, is misbehaving for some reason or another, or her system has decided to spit up and forget her VPN settings. Fortunately, I remember enough about Windoze to fix this sort of crap for her, but not always. But, hey, it's Windoze...and everything "performs as advertised without having to call AppleCare." Fortunately, I have people other than the non-English speakers at Microsoft to call when her computer plays stump the band on me. "To fix that Windoze issue, just reinstall Windoze." My personal favorite. How does Apple do a general update of their current OSX? You mentioned that the "fix" for your problem will probably show up in the next fix release from Apple. Does Apple routinely update the current operating system and does it happen automatically or do you need to call AppleCare? Not trying to be a wise ass ... I just don't know how it works. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. It's kind of naive to assume that everything on a computer is going to work as expected all the time. I know how the problem with my Canon device manifested itself to me, but I don't know what the cause was. The Apple guys looked over some files I sent them and sent me a fix. It probably will show up in the next fix release from Apple. It's funny you bring this up, experience Windoze user that you are. Microsoft releases dozens and dozens of updates all the time, some for security reasons, some to fix glitches, and some to resolve issues such as the one I had. Once in a while, my wife asks me to provide "tech support" for her Windoze desktop computer in her home office. It's a decent "Dell" machine, about a year old, with a i5 CPU and, if memory serves, either six or eight GBs of RAM. The usual problem is that a plain vanilla bit of hardware, one of her printers or her scanner, is misbehaving for some reason or another, or her system has decided to spit up and forget her VPN settings. Fortunately, I remember enough about Windoze to fix this sort of crap for her, but not always. But, hey, it's Windoze...and everything "performs as advertised without having to call AppleCare." Fortunately, I have people other than the non-English speakers at Microsoft to call when her computer plays stump the band on me. "To fix that Windoze issue, just reinstall Windoze." My personal favorite. How does Apple do a general update of their current OSX? You mentioned that the "fix" for your problem will probably show up in the next fix release from Apple. Does Apple routinely update the current operating system and does it happen automatically or do you need to call AppleCare? Not trying to be a wise ass ... I just don't know how it works. Every so often, not on a particular schedule, Apple will post software updates, which include OS updates. You should see a little pop up in the upper right hand corner of your screen that tells you there is an update and it will tell you what it is and ask whether you want to install it. Also, if you click on the Apple in the upper left corner, the second entry there will say Software Updates. If you click on that, it will take you to the repository and will let you know if there are updates for your machine or any apple software you have installed. I also use MacUpdateDesktop to inform me about updates for non-Apple software. https://www.macupdate.com/desktop/ $20 a year for that one. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 9:54 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 8:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: The "drivers" on my Mac worked properly but sporadically with the camera. No other devices I connect with Wi Fi were having problems. There are limited numbers of settings to try from this end. So, I called Mac and they came up with a solution that worked. Might want to re-read that first sentence. The fact that it worked "sporadically" means, by definition, it did *not* work "properly". And the fact that Apple (not Canon) had to come up with a fix means it was buggy Apple software. Have a nice day. I will. :-) The problem (which no one likes to admit) is that the latest OSX from Apple called "Mavericks" has some bugs. Harry has apparently experienced a minor one. I have an issue that is well known but, to date, Apple has not resolved. The Apple Support forums are full of people with complaints and problems. Right now I am sorta wishing I had held off upgrading to Mavericks. Based on what I've read, the previous OSX (Mountain Lion) was optimized and stable. I don't know how Apple updates it's current OSX with improvements. I occasionally check for software updates on the iMac but so far it just reports that the version I have is current. Every version of Windozes and every version of the Mac OS has had "bugs," some minor and some not minor. This will continue. You are fortunate to have a personal team of experts to help with your issues. Computer issues that is. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 10:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. It's kind of naive to assume that everything on a computer is going to work as expected all the time. I know how the problem with my Canon device manifested itself to me, but I don't know what the cause was. The Apple guys looked over some files I sent them and sent me a fix. It probably will show up in the next fix release from Apple. It's funny you bring this up, experience Windoze user that you are. Microsoft releases dozens and dozens of updates all the time, some for security reasons, some to fix glitches, and some to resolve issues such as the one I had. Once in a while, my wife asks me to provide "tech support" for her Windoze desktop computer in her home office. It's a decent "Dell" machine, about a year old, with a i5 CPU and, if memory serves, either six or eight GBs of RAM. The usual problem is that a plain vanilla bit of hardware, one of her printers or her scanner, is misbehaving for some reason or another, or her system has decided to spit up and forget her VPN settings. Fortunately, I remember enough about Windoze to fix this sort of crap for her, but not always. But, hey, it's Windoze...and everything "performs as advertised without having to call AppleCare." Fortunately, I have people other than the non-English speakers at Microsoft to call when her computer plays stump the band on me. "To fix that Windoze issue, just reinstall Windoze." My personal favorite. How does Apple do a general update of their current OSX? You mentioned that the "fix" for your problem will probably show up in the next fix release from Apple. Does Apple routinely update the current operating system and does it happen automatically or do you need to call AppleCare? Not trying to be a wise ass ... I just don't know how it works. Every so often, not on a particular schedule, Apple will post software updates, which include OS updates. You should see a little pop up in the upper right hand corner of your screen that tells you there is an update and it will tell you what it is and ask whether you want to install it. Also, if you click on the Apple in the upper left corner, the second entry there will say Software Updates. If you click on that, it will take you to the repository and will let you know if there are updates for your machine or any apple software you have installed. I also use MacUpdateDesktop to inform me about updates for non-Apple software. https://www.macupdate.com/desktop/ $20 a year for that one. Thanks. I've been checking for updates from time to time by clicking on Apple (upper left corner) and then for Software Updates. So far, none. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. You love playing with new toys. Admit it. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 10:57 AM, HanK wrote:
You love playing with new toys. Admit it. Tell you what I *don't* love. Snow storms. We have another one arriving Thursday and going into Friday. It's going to cause problems up the entire East Coast as well according to the weather people. It has been a fairly rough winter up here with too much snow. Other than one that dumped about 16", they have been not been block busters of snow storms but they have been arriving on a weekly basis. It has stayed cold so melting has been minimal. I am going to start having problems having a place to plow more snow away and the places I pile it up with the tractor are getting too high for the bucket's reach. We sign the official papers with the realtor on Thursday ... assuming he can make it to the house in the snow. It will soon be on the market. We'll probably move to a warmer place only to find out the earth's magnetic poles have flipped and the new location will replicate the northeast. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:12:15 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:57 AM, HanK wrote: You love playing with new toys. Admit it. Tell you what I *don't* love. Snow storms. We have another one arriving Thursday and going into Friday. It's going to cause problems up the entire East Coast as well according to the weather people. It has been a fairly rough winter up here with too much snow. Other than one that dumped about 16", they have been not been block busters of snow storms but they have been arriving on a weekly basis. It has stayed cold so melting has been minimal. I am going to start having problems having a place to plow more snow away and the places I pile it up with the tractor are getting too high for the bucket's reach. We sign the official papers with the realtor on Thursday ... assuming he can make it to the house in the snow. It will soon be on the market. We'll probably move to a warmer place only to find out the earth's magnetic poles have flipped and the new location will replicate the northeast. Wear that storm down as much as you can... it is scheduled to arrive here mid day or later on Thursday. |
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