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On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...



It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



Not to mention you are all ****ed cause I did a google on turning a
motorcycle and not one of the pictures depicts what you all said was
countersteering...... I won't hold my breath though... I think you all
have difficulty accepting anything outside your personal spher....... oh
well, you get it...
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On 2/13/2014 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:50:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)


Your exasperation with same is very understandable.


Same question to you. Why don't you acknowledge that I posted last night
that you all are partially right... Second... My exasperation with you
all ignoring the google link I posted or you just looking at all those
bikes turning with the tire turned toward the radius, and lying saying
they are countersteering just because you can't take being wrong...
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On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an
arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after
some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you
acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior..



No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this
subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same
thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a
bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am
focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion
basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general
terms.


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On 2/13/14, 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an
arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after
some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you
acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior..



Some of us don't read all your posts and some of us, for the posts of
yours we do read, can't always understand what it is you are trying to say.

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On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to
be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an
arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after
some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you
acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior..



No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this
subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same
thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a
bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am
focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion
basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general
terms.



OK, I get it but still... You don't counter steer your bike through a
corner... You may bump the opposite side to get that little sway street
bikes like... But like us, you could simply start to lean to the turn
and the front end would follow. I am the one who has crossed over here
and "learned" by reading.. I see why you do it, I "feel" the motion
cause I have been there before, but still.. You on your street bike, and
me on my MX bike, can make a left turn without ever "pushing" the left
bar forward of the right bar....


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On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to
be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an
arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after
some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you
acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior..



No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this
subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same
thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a
bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am
focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion
basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general
terms.



You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be
wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I
have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike are
similar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying
is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on
both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to
that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have
trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And
Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this
summer based on what folks see my rider do....

Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a
countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the
corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering...
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On 2/13/14, 11:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to
be a

Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with
the

crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates.

Lying again.......


No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I
doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three
weeks
before the real release...


It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a
Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I
presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups
testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference
times.

The "real release." What a laugh that is.



I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is
outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to
think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is
the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to
take sharp turns and corners. :-)



And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an
arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after
some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you
acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior..



No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this
subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same
thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a
bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am
focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion
basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general
terms.



You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be
wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I
have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike are
similar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying
is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on
both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to
that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have
trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And
Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this
summer based on what folks see my rider do....

Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a
countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the
corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering...



Which of those many hopped up dirt bikes you have do you ride on the
streets?

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