On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:30:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican] immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your head? I don't think so.



The thing is, property and home owners have rights too. They also have
responsibilities that go along with those rights. In many cases a
location is selected to rent or purchase a home based upon the school
system, and general quality of life in which to raise a family. Having
to tip-toe around homeless people living in cardboard boxes is not what
they are paying taxes for.

The homeless have to accept some level of responsibility to get help to
improve their lot in life. Help is available in many areas and provided
by tax funded federal and state government programs, private
organizations and church based shelters that offer a warm place to stay
with employment, health and training assistance. One of the problems
that exists is that a large percentage of homeless individuals *do not*
want to take advantage of these facilities or to even get help. Drug
addicts and alcoholics make up a higher proportion of the homeless than
do the mentally ill or other subgroups and many homeless are in that
position *because* of drug addiction or alcoholism. Like a drug addict
or alcoholic, they must first *want* to get help.


Amen.

On 2/10/14, 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican] immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your head? I don't think so.


Greg is misusing the term. In most common usage, an immigrant is someone
who comes into your country from another country. That's how Ingraham
was using the term...it was obvious from her hate-filled comment that
she thinks Puerto Rico is "another country," and not part of the United
States territories, and that Puerto Ricans are American citizens, and
not foreigners. And if memory serves, Greg didn't even know the
difference between immigrant and emigrant.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:38:55 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican] immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your head? I don't think so.


Greg is misusing the term. In most common usage, an immigrant is someone
who comes into your country from another country. That's how Ingraham
was using the term...it was obvious from her hate-filled comment that
she thinks Puerto Rico is "another country," and not part of the United
States territories, and that Puerto Ricans are American citizens, and
not foreigners. And if memory serves, Greg didn't even know the
difference between immigrant and emigrant.

Uh-huh. How the hell do you know what Laura Ingraham was thinking? Hate filled? Another adjective?
So you should have said, "...the depths of hatefilled stupidity of unimaginable proportion..."

Greg had it right, even though it may not agree with your 'common usage'.

And, I expect Greg knows full well the difference between immigrant and emigrant, and he used the
correct word.

Maybe you should do a little dictionary work? Eh?

On 2/10/14, 7:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican] immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your
head? I don't think so.



The thing is, property and home owners have rights too. They also have
responsibilities that go along with those rights. In many cases a
location is selected to rent or purchase a home based upon the school
system, and general quality of life in which to raise a family. Having
to tip-toe around homeless people living in cardboard boxes is not what
they are paying taxes for.

The homeless have to accept some level of responsibility to get help to
improve their lot in life. Help is available in many areas and provided
by tax funded federal and state government programs, private
organizations and church based shelters that offer a warm place to stay
with employment, health and training assistance. One of the problems
that exists is that a large percentage of homeless individuals *do not*
want to take advantage of these facilities or to even get help. Drug
addicts and alcoholics make up a higher proportion of the homeless than
do the mentally ill or other subgroups and many homeless are in that
position *because* of drug addiction or alcoholism. Like a drug addict
or alcoholic, they must first *want* to get help.



You replied to the wrong thread, but, what the hell, this is
wrecked.bloats, so...

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Some other modern countries seem to be doing a better job with their
homeless, and taking a more pro-active approach to humanely housing the
homeless.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:02:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


snip

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Sure it is, if there are adequate shelters and the goal is to get the homeless off the streets and
into the shelters where it is warm.

Some other modern countries seem to be doing a better job with their
homeless, and taking a more pro-active approach to humanely housing the
homeless.

Do those 'modern countries' have more shelters per indigent than Pensacola? Or is this just another
one of your 'USA putdowns'?

On 2/10/14, 8:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:02:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


snip

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Sure it is, if there are adequate shelters and the goal is to get the homeless off the streets and
into the shelters where it is warm.

Ahh, so you have current knowledge, verified, of course, of the shelter
situation in Pensacola and the status of the homeless there. Good for
you. Go get those blankets!


--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On 2/10/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 7:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican]
immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your
head? I don't think so.



The thing is, property and home owners have rights too. They also have
responsibilities that go along with those rights. In many cases a
location is selected to rent or purchase a home based upon the school
system, and general quality of life in which to raise a family. Having
to tip-toe around homeless people living in cardboard boxes is not what
they are paying taxes for.

The homeless have to accept some level of responsibility to get help to
improve their lot in life. Help is available in many areas and provided
by tax funded federal and state government programs, private
organizations and church based shelters that offer a warm place to stay
with employment, health and training assistance. One of the problems
that exists is that a large percentage of homeless individuals *do not*
want to take advantage of these facilities or to even get help. Drug
addicts and alcoholics make up a higher proportion of the homeless than
do the mentally ill or other subgroups and many homeless are in that
position *because* of drug addiction or alcoholism. Like a drug addict
or alcoholic, they must first *want* to get help.



You replied to the wrong thread, but, what the hell, this is
wrecked.bloats, so...

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Some other modern countries seem to be doing a better job with their
homeless, and taking a more pro-active approach to humanely housing the
homeless.



Yeah, I realized it was the wrong thread after I hit the "send" key. I
was reading about Puerto Rico (having lived there for two years) but
was still thinking about the homeless issue.

On 2/10/14, 8:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 7:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 6:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican]
immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

Diarrhea? Greg just showed Laura was correct. That went over your
head? I don't think so.



The thing is, property and home owners have rights too. They also have
responsibilities that go along with those rights. In many cases a
location is selected to rent or purchase a home based upon the school
system, and general quality of life in which to raise a family. Having
to tip-toe around homeless people living in cardboard boxes is not what
they are paying taxes for.

The homeless have to accept some level of responsibility to get help to
improve their lot in life. Help is available in many areas and provided
by tax funded federal and state government programs, private
organizations and church based shelters that offer a warm place to stay
with employment, health and training assistance. One of the problems
that exists is that a large percentage of homeless individuals *do not*
want to take advantage of these facilities or to even get help. Drug
addicts and alcoholics make up a higher proportion of the homeless than
do the mentally ill or other subgroups and many homeless are in that
position *because* of drug addiction or alcoholism. Like a drug addict
or alcoholic, they must first *want* to get help.



You replied to the wrong thread, but, what the hell, this is
wrecked.bloats, so...

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Some other modern countries seem to be doing a better job with their
homeless, and taking a more pro-active approach to humanely housing the
homeless.



Yeah, I realized it was the wrong thread after I hit the "send" key. I
was reading about Puerto Rico (having lived there for two years) but
was still thinking about the homeless issue.



I've been to Puerto Rico a couple of times and liked it. Recently
"discovered" that the much younger sister of a New Haven buddy married a
Puerto Rican guy and they spend half their year there and the other half
in Florida, with occasional visits to Connecticut and New York City,
where both still have relatives. Anyway, we hope to visit them sometime
when they are in Puerto Rico and avail ourselves of their services as
informal travel guides.



--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:23 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 8:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:02:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


snip

I don't dispute what you are saying. The problem of the homeless is a
difficult one. But taking blankets away from the homeless on a cold
night is not part of the solution, or shouldn't be.

Sure it is, if there are adequate shelters and the goal is to get the homeless off the streets and
into the shelters where it is warm.

Ahh, so you have current knowledge, verified, of course, of the shelter
situation in Pensacola and the status of the homeless there. Good for
you. Go get those blankets!

Did you miss the word 'if', Harry? My, my.

I've already posted a link to the homeless shelters available in Pensacola. Bunches of them.

On 2/10/14, 10:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:03:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 12:30 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


...the stupidity level on Fox News had bottomed out...

Laura Ingraham bore even deeper into the depths of stupidity of
unimaginable proportion. Ingraham called Puerto Ricans immigrants.

On her radio show, Ingraham said Associate Supreme Court Justice
Sotomayor’s “allegiance obviously goes to her [Puerto Rican] immigrant
family background and not to the Constitution of the United States.

Puerto Ricans are United States Citizens and are NOT immigrants.

Immigration is defined as "To enter and settle in a country or region
to which one is not native." It says nothing about citizenship.
New Yorkers are immigrating to Texas. (and are just about as welcome)



Whoosh.

You hate it when you are wrong don't you mr liberal arts graduate.



No, I'm not. And New Yorkers may be emigrating to Texas or immigrating
into Texas, but they are not immigrating *to* Texas, Mr. Non College
Graduate.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.