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Shooting the P226...
....is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth
as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) -- There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:24:14 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) -- There's no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. ~~ Snerk ~~! |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. -- There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/2014 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. John, are you trying to live up to harrys' expectations? LOL! |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" |
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Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/14, 2:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:57:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 12:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) There is a huge difference between poking holes in paper and a gunfight. To start with, any defensible use of force will happen inside 7 yards and most more like 7 feet or less. It is going to be pretty hard to convince anyone that you were in imminent fear of death from someone 75 feet away. These days I only train by extending and firing from the retention position (high and low), at various angles and I am even getting out of the double tap habit although I do shoot a few. These days we have more to fear from lawyers than bad guys. I shoot targets at 25 yards. I warm up at seven yards. Yeah, but you're a much better shot than I am. And, you're a much better shot than the law enforcement folks in your neck of the woods. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice. Most cops don't practice much. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:59:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/5/14, 2:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:57:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 12:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) There is a huge difference between poking holes in paper and a gunfight. To start with, any defensible use of force will happen inside 7 yards and most more like 7 feet or less. It is going to be pretty hard to convince anyone that you were in imminent fear of death from someone 75 feet away. These days I only train by extending and firing from the retention position (high and low), at various angles and I am even getting out of the double tap habit although I do shoot a few. These days we have more to fear from lawyers than bad guys. I shoot targets at 25 yards. I warm up at seven yards. Yeah, but you're a much better shot than I am. And, you're a much better shot than the law enforcement folks in your neck of the woods. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice. Most cops don't practice much. Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. |
Shooting the P226...
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Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/14, 3:44 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:59:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 2:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:57:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 12:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) There is a huge difference between poking holes in paper and a gunfight. To start with, any defensible use of force will happen inside 7 yards and most more like 7 feet or less. It is going to be pretty hard to convince anyone that you were in imminent fear of death from someone 75 feet away. These days I only train by extending and firing from the retention position (high and low), at various angles and I am even getting out of the double tap habit although I do shoot a few. These days we have more to fear from lawyers than bad guys. I shoot targets at 25 yards. I warm up at seven yards. Yeah, but you're a much better shot than I am. And, you're a much better shot than the law enforcement folks in your neck of the woods. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice. Most cops don't practice much. Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Good idea. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:12:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/2014 5:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:12:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/5/14, 5:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/5/2014 5:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:12:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Pocket pistols give me the creepies. I dunno why. If I were buying a carry pistol, it wouldn't fit in my pocket. My fav revolver probably is the S&W 686. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:21:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/5/2014 5:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:12:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. The P938 is .65" longer, weighs 4oz more, and has a barrel .25" longer. Here's the specs on mine: http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...8-equinox.aspx And the info on the Bodyguard http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_827563_-1_757781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y |
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On 2/5/2014 5:30 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/5/14, 5:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/5/2014 5:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote: My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Pocket pistols give me the creepies. I dunno why. If I were buying a carry pistol, it wouldn't fit in my pocket. My fav revolver probably is the S&W 686. For concealed carry, I liked the pocket sized S&W. I had a nylon pocket holster for it. Thing is, in the summer at the guitar shop I often wore light "T" shirts or something that made concealing a hip or back holster a little difficult. You can always tell who's carrying in the summer. They usually have a un-tucked shirt or a light jacket on, even in 90 degree weather. The pocket sized S&W Bodyguard was convenient that way and was small enough to be inconspicuous. Many musicians are liberals and don't take too kindly to a guy selling them a guitar with a gun on his belt. :-) I have a buddy who carries in an ankle holster. I get a kick out of that. I could just picture myself being robbed up at the shop and hopping around on one foot while asking the guy to hold on until I drew my weapon. |
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:11:23 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:30:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 5:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Pocket pistols give me the creepies. I dunno why. If I were buying a carry pistol, it wouldn't fit in my pocket. My fav revolver probably is the S&W 686. You still should have a holster, even for a pocket pistol. I agree I don't like the pocket idea either. When I was carrying I used a cross draw hip carry or the good old shoulder holster if I was wearing a suit. Both were accessible in the car. Both I was thinking about Dick's post last night. I'm halfway thinking of getting one of these: http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/te...ide-image2.png They come especially made for various pistols, including the P938. And then I wondered, why not just carry it in the front pocket of my jeans - without a holster. What does the pocket holster do for you? |
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On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. |
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:20:11 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. practice more.. |
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:19:35 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. The .45 takes care of that problem. Aim, pull, call it a day. |
Shooting the P226...
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:30:52 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/5/14, 5:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/5/2014 5:18 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:12:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/5/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:41 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sharpshooters has classes to improve shooting skills. Cost is $125 for a two-hour one-on-one class with the instructor. Bring the firearms and two boxes of ammo. Might do it just for the hell of it. Save your money. Take a golf lesson. Much harder than shooting. I've wasted enough money on golf lessons. I need to spend a lot more time practicing if I really want to improve. I don't see myself doing that. I've noticed at the range that there are some people very proficient in shooting who are always willing to watch your stance, shooting style and offer suggestions. When I had the S&W Bodyguard and was constantly shooting low, one guy (turns out he's on the club competition pistol shooting team) pointed out what I was doing wrong. He helped a lot but I still didn't like that pistol. I suppose if it was the only handgun you had and shot, you'd become very familiar with it but when you shoot other handguns as well, it becomes a pain in the ass to concentrate on the idiosyncrasies of one gun. My SIL has a Bodyguard. I didn't like it either. I took her to the range to learn how to shoot it, but it wasn't the gun I'd buy. I like the Sig P938 much better. How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Pocket pistols give me the creepies. I dunno why. If I were buying a carry pistol, it wouldn't fit in my pocket. My fav revolver probably is the S&W 686. Over a period of time I've gotten to be great friends with my Hungarian FEG-PA63 in 9mm Makarov. At 50 ft. I can rapidly empty the clip and ping up a gallon paint can lid with ease. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._with_Clip.jpg |
Shooting the P226...
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:21:12 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Well, Rich. That's a start... |
Shooting the P226...
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Shooting the P226...
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Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 8:51 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:11:23 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:30:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 5:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: How do they compare size wise? The one good thing about the Bodyguard is that it was a good pocket size pistol. Problem was that if I ever had to use it in a hurry for self-defense I'd probably hit the sucker in the foot. Pocket pistols give me the creepies. I dunno why. If I were buying a carry pistol, it wouldn't fit in my pocket. My fav revolver probably is the S&W 686. You still should have a holster, even for a pocket pistol. I agree I don't like the pocket idea either. When I was carrying I used a cross draw hip carry or the good old shoulder holster if I was wearing a suit. Both were accessible in the car. Both I was thinking about Dick's post last night. I'm halfway thinking of getting one of these: http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/te...ide-image2.png They come especially made for various pistols, including the P938. And then I wondered, why not just carry it in the front pocket of my jeans - without a holster. What does the pocket holster do for you? Read the reviews before you spend your hard earned pension money. A good pocket holster will keep the pistola from shifting around in yur pocket. |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time:) say Tim, I suppose he could take out a burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time:) say Tim, I suppose he could take out a burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time:) say Tim, I suppose he could take out a burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 10:36 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time:) say Tim, I suppose he could take out a burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? If you rely on a crutch to make your way around the house, it follows that you should take the crutch with you when you go out for a walk. Does that sound reasonable? |
Shooting the P226...
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:46:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. === It is an issue. :-) It's great for working on your stance and grip however, and batteries are a lot cheaper than ammo. I bought one on Amazon for my 9mm and it improved my accuracy a lot. It's an easy install if you have a small Weaver rail built into the bottom of the barrel. |
Shooting the P226...
wrote:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:46:05 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. If you watch the shooting shows the pros don't look that steady with a laser either but they still put up good scores. It might actually be a good training tool to work on your steadiness. The serious shooters I knew did strength training with hand weights. That was when the one hand hold was king tho. Then the Weaver stance and the 2 hand grip took over. Originally the thought was shooting off to your side presented less of a target to the other guy. Then someone pointed out that one shot could get your heart and both lungs. That rarely happens when you are shooting at targets. đŸ˜„ Gunfight seem to be on your mind a lot. Is that because you are in a stand your ground state? |
Shooting the P226...
On 2/6/2014 11:18 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:36 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time:) say Tim, I suppose he could take out a burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? If you rely on a crutch to make your way around the house, it follows that you should take the crutch with you when you go out for a walk. Does that sound reasonable? Not really.... I wear glasses, I am sure I could shoot someone without them just fine though... |
Shooting the P226...
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:52:22 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. :) They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Not possible with my eyeballs. My computer glasses are good from about 18" to 3'. My distance glasses are good from about 5' on out. I should be wearing tri-focals, but I can't stand the damn things. I could get a pair that had the computer Rx on the bottom and the distance Rx on the top. Then I could bob my head up and down to shoot - look at the target then the sight. :) Today I practiced shooting using my best eye, the left one. That helped. I had been shooting using my right eye, which has a cataract along with some other ****. Hey, I can bang the hell out of a cantaloupe at 7 yards. Good enough for night work down the staircase. |
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