On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

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To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

...."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?

On 2/5/14, 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

..."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?


If you are a pregnant woman who wants an abortion and because of the
lawmakers in your state you have to drive long long distances to get
one, yes, "forcing" is the right word. What if you are poor, or can't
drive, or you have to stay somewhere overnight or you have complications.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:45:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

..."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?


If you are a pregnant woman who wants an abortion and because of the
lawmakers in your state you have to drive long long distances to get
one, yes, "forcing" is the right word.
Who said they have to drive long distances?

What if you are poor, or can't
drive, or you have to stay somewhere overnight or you have complications.

Are you seriously suggesting there should be an abortion clinic within a few blocks of every
dwelling in America, and that it should have a full staff of emergency and operating room doctors?

Unreal. Go back to 'having to drive to another country'....it made as much sense.

On 2/5/2014 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

..."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?


Does "bellicose" mean lie?

On 2/5/14, 11:47 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/5/2014 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics
where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

..."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to
get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?


Does "bellicose" mean lie?


Reality is the perfect squelch for ignorance:

Our archaic laws on pregnancy termination wiped out safe abortions for
the entire Rio Grande Valley.

So, our state's archaic, sweeping restrictions on abortion providers
have made it impossible for women in the Rio Grande Valley — in McAllen,
Mission, San Benito and the like — to receive adequate reproductive
care. The restrictions have shut down all clinics within a 150-mile
radius of the Rio Grande Valley, which means that the women of the
Valley have two options — they can drive an insane distance in order to
obtain a termination or they can hop on over to Mexico, where as we all
know abortions are so safe and sterile and all. Or they can have their
wombs hijacked for nine months because the state says so, I guess. So
perhaps that leaves three options. Three totally garbage options.

The court system really couldn't care less about the women of their
state receiving adequate care, though. When lawyers for The Center for
Reproductive Rights attempted to explain to Judge Edith Jones the
300-mile termination quandary, she suggested that women simply make the
drive, since the roads are "peculiarly flat and not congested." Perhaps
Jones is forgetting the mandatory ultrasound and 24-hour wait time that
a woman must be forced to adhere to in Texas, which will clock those
miles in at not 300 but 600, given that the trip must be made twice. A
woman cannot simply drive herself home from a medical procedure, either.
And certainly not for 150 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lubpzel


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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:53:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:47 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/5/2014 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:14:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/5/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:02:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

snipped

To name two states, Kansas and Texas have closed down most clinics
where
women can obtain abortions, forcing women to drive to other states or
even another country to get one.

Well, I suppose these put the lie to that:

http://www.southwindwomenscenter.org/abortion-care/

http://www.routhstreet.com/




I fail to see how your post disputes the fact that Kansas and Texas have
closed most clinics where women can get abortions. You did see the word
"most" in there, right? "Most" does not mean all.

..."forcing women to drive to other states or even another country to
get one."

'Forcing' is a very bellicose term, no?


Does "bellicose" mean lie?


Reality is the perfect squelch for ignorance:

Our archaic laws on pregnancy termination wiped out safe abortions for
the entire Rio Grande Valley.

So, our state's archaic, sweeping restrictions on abortion providers
have made it impossible for women in the Rio Grande Valley — in McAllen,
Mission, San Benito and the like — to receive adequate reproductive
care. The restrictions have shut down all clinics within a 150-mile
radius of the Rio Grande Valley, which means that the women of the
Valley have two options — they can drive an insane distance in order to
obtain a termination or they can hop on over to Mexico, where as we all
know abortions are so safe and sterile and all. Or they can have their
wombs hijacked for nine months because the state says so, I guess. So
perhaps that leaves three options. Three totally garbage options.

The court system really couldn't care less about the women of their
state receiving adequate care, though. When lawyers for The Center for
Reproductive Rights attempted to explain to Judge Edith Jones the
300-mile termination quandary, she suggested that women simply make the
drive, since the roads are "peculiarly flat and not congested." Perhaps
Jones is forgetting the mandatory ultrasound and 24-hour wait time that
a woman must be forced to adhere to in Texas, which will clock those
miles in at not 300 but 600, given that the trip must be made twice. A
woman cannot simply drive herself home from a medical procedure, either.
And certainly not for 150 miles.

http://tinyurl.com/lubpzel

Why can not the 'doctors' from the clinics get admitting privileges at the local hospitals? That's
what seems to be the hang up. Now, if the 'doctors' aren't qualified enough to get the admitting
procedures, then why should they be allowed to work as 'doctors' in the clinics?

The way I read your story, many of the problems have to do, in great part, with the 'legality' of
the immigrants in question.