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What a great country, eh?
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On 2/2/2014 12:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:19:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:55:50 -0500, Hank wrote: So, why do so many self-described pro-lifers oppose free and accessible birth control? For some it's a religious issue. Others believe it's an area that that the govt. has no jurisdiction over. Free and accessible birth control is fine so long as tax payers are not burdened with paying for it. If you are actually a fiscal conservative you know money spent on birth control and abortion comes back 100 fold in welfare and prison costs you don't have to spend. It is a very efficient use of public money. Birth control and abortion should be part of any welfare package. Excellent points. I am personally surprised that they are not more widely embraced. It's not like all of these unwanted children are becoming good little church goers and model citizens. When a single 15 year old has a baby, it destroys 2 lives and they become a burden on the rest of society, virtually every time. The ONLY issue is religious. No doubt. No doubt in your mind.. Some of us just see a viable human being and want to have a discussion as to when it's ok to kill that person... Noting to do with religion.. |
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On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:23:58 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/2/2014 10:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:11:27 -0500, KC wrote: Some of us just see a viable human being and want to have a discussion as to when it's ok to kill that person... You have no problem when they are 15 and just shot a cop. I am just nipping it in the bud. Wth does that have to do with anything? If you look at who is in prisons, the majority came from families that had an unmarried teenaged mom who was in the welfare system her whole life. If they aborted that first baby and got the girl back in school, there is a far better chance she could have a productive life and not as many criminal kids. So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? |
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On 2/3/14, 12:02 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:23:58 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/2/2014 10:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:11:27 -0500, KC wrote: Some of us just see a viable human being and want to have a discussion as to when it's ok to kill that person... You have no problem when they are 15 and just shot a cop. I am just nipping it in the bud. Wth does that have to do with anything? If you look at who is in prisons, the majority came from families that had an unmarried teenaged mom who was in the welfare system her whole life. If they aborted that first baby and got the girl back in school, there is a far better chance she could have a productive life and not as many criminal kids. So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? "Pre-murder" !!! Now there is an interesting term. -- There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. |
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On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:31:38 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:02:18 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote: So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? I don't think a fetus is a human, particularly in the first trimester. We make financial decisions about human life every day and I bet you agree with most of them. Would it be worth spending an extra billion dollars a year through some extra regulation to save one life? I can get along with that. I can't get along with the killing of viable unborn infants. |
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On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:34:19 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:26:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:31:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:02:18 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote: So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? I don't think a fetus is a human, particularly in the first trimester. We make financial decisions about human life every day and I bet you agree with most of them. Would it be worth spending an extra billion dollars a year through some extra regulation to save one life? I can get along with that. I can't get along with the killing of viable unborn infants. In a lot of cases it is cruel not to. If you're referring to the cases where the child will be raised fatherless, destitute, along with 9 other kids in the one-bedroom apartment, it may be cruel to let the child be born. It's not the doctor's job to foresee the future, however. |
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On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:26:03 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:34:19 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:26:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:31:38 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:02:18 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote: So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? I don't think a fetus is a human, particularly in the first trimester. We make financial decisions about human life every day and I bet you agree with most of them. Would it be worth spending an extra billion dollars a year through some extra regulation to save one life? I can get along with that. I can't get along with the killing of viable unborn infants. In a lot of cases it is cruel not to. If you're referring to the cases where the child will be raised fatherless, destitute, along with 9 other kids in the one-bedroom apartment, it may be cruel to let the child be born. It's not the doctor's job to foresee the future, however. Nor the government. |
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#10
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On 2/3/2014 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:02:18 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote: So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me only against abortion based on "religious" issues...? I don't think a fetus is a human, particularly in the first trimester. We make financial decisions about human life every day and I bet you agree with most of them. Would it be worth spending an extra billion dollars a year through some extra regulation to save one life? Not my problem.. you and Wayne et al seem to be saying "no other reason but religion" for being against abortion. I say they are full of crap, many folks just feel it's not ok to kill a viable human.. |
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