On 2/2/2014 11:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:55:50 -0500, Hank wrote:

So, why do so many self-described pro-lifers oppose
free and accessible birth control?

For some it's a religious issue. Others believe it's an area that that
the govt. has no jurisdiction over. Free and accessible birth control is
fine so long as tax payers are not burdened with paying for it.

If you are actually a fiscal conservative you know money spent on
birth control and abortion comes back 100 fold in welfare and prison
costs you don't have to spend.
It is a very efficient use of public money. Birth control and abortion
should be part of any welfare package.

When a single 15 year old has a baby, it destroys 2 lives and they
become a burden on the rest of society, virtually every time.

The ONLY issue is religious.



Religious and...control over women.


I call bull**** on both of you.

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:46:42 -0500, Hank wrote:

If you are actually a fiscal conservative you know money spent on
birth control and abortion comes back 100 fold in welfare and prison
costs you don't have to spend.
It is a very efficient use of public money. Birth control and abortion
should be part of any welfare package.

When a single 15 year old has a baby, it destroys 2 lives and they
become a burden on the rest of society, virtually every time.

The ONLY issue is religious.



Religious and...control over women.


I call bull**** on both of you.

===

Greg makes some excellent points. You disagree?

On 2/2/2014 12:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:46:42 -0500, Hank wrote:


The ONLY issue is religious.

I disagree




Religious and...control over women.

I disagree



I call bull**** on both of you.

I agree

===

Greg makes some excellent points. You disagree?

see above

On 2/2/2014 12:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:46:42 -0500, Hank wrote:

If you are actually a fiscal conservative you know money spent on
birth control and abortion comes back 100 fold in welfare and prison
costs you don't have to spend.
It is a very efficient use of public money. Birth control and abortion
should be part of any welfare package.

When a single 15 year old has a baby, it destroys 2 lives and they
become a burden on the rest of society, virtually every time.

The ONLY issue is religious.



Religious and...control over women.


I call bull**** on both of you.

===

Greg makes some excellent points. You disagree?

The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

On 2/2/2014 11:01 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again


If you want to discuss what you said, please include it in your quote.
I don't know which girls you are referring to.

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:01:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again

Free morning after pills.

On 2/3/14, 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:26:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:01:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again

Free morning after pills.
OK but free Norplant would be more effective.

I would make it a recommendation if not a requirement for anyone on
public assistance or drug treatment.


And tea party types and ultra conservatives.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On 2/3/14, 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:45:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:35 AM, wrote:

Free morning after pills.
OK but free Norplant would be more effective.

I would make it a recommendation if not a requirement for anyone on
public assistance or drug treatment.


And tea party types and ultra conservatives.

I don't think they are a big part of the unwed welfare mother problem.


Really? From what I have seen of tea party types at DC assemblies, I
doubt they would know how to put on a condom. And most welfare
recipients are white.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On 2/3/14, 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

And tea party types and ultra conservatives.

I don't think they are a big part of the unwed welfare mother problem.


Really? From what I have seen of tea party types at DC assemblies, I
doubt they would know how to put on a condom. And most welfare
recipients are white.

I doubt those tea party people are on welfare


How would you know?

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:35:19 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:26:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:01:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again

Free morning after pills.
OK but free Norplant would be more effective.

I would make it a recommendation if not a requirement for anyone on
public assistance or drug treatment.

Merina intra-uterine device. Lasts for years.

http://www.mirena-us.com/