On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote:


The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry
average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really
offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits).
Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the
urban stores where you see these protests.


What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low
income people, you support it.

Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at
Walmart or McDonalds.
They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of
holding.
The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some
artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the
end product.


Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses
out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the
toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories
that employ near slave labor.

Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more
than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid
vacation?

Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash"
employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out
in the country.

As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your
Apple stuff?

An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail
person.

If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30
billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the
profits.
2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000
employees.

Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is
running.

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On 11/19/13, 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote:


The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry
average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really
offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits).
Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the
urban stores where you see these protests.


What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low
income people, you support it.

Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at
Walmart or McDonalds.
They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of
holding.
The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some
artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the
end product.


Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses
out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the
toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories
that employ near slave labor.

Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more
than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid
vacation?

Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash"
employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out
in the country.

As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your
Apple stuff?

An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail
person.

If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30
billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the
profits.
2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000
employees.

Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is
running.

Do you have any data that disputes it?

You make it sound like Mom and Pop are paying their employees $40 an
hour.

BTW do you actually know anyone who works at Walmart and how do they
feel about it. I know a single mom in Oklahoma who was thrilled to get
her walmart job. She finally got insurance for her kid.


How soon after that did George Zimmerman kill the kid so she could
collect on the policy?

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On 11/19/13, 3:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote:


The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the
industry
average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really
offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits).
Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It
is the
urban stores where you see these protests.


What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low
income people, you support it.

Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at
Walmart or McDonalds.
They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of
holding.
The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some
artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the
end product.


Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses
out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the
toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories
that employ near slave labor.

Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more
than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid
vacation?

Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash"
employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out
in the country.

As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your
Apple stuff?

An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail
person.

If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30
billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the
profits.
2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000
employees.

Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is
running.

Do you have any data that disputes it?

You make it sound like Mom and Pop are paying their employees $40 an
hour.

BTW do you actually know anyone who works at Walmart and how do they
feel about it. I know a single mom in Oklahoma who was thrilled to get
her walmart job. She finally got insurance for her kid.


How soon after that did George Zimmerman kill the kid so she could
collect on the policy?


Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

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In article , says...


Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies
to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too.
And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to
the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or
miss.
Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's
house, in a less "expensive" area.
A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than
Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass.
But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive
pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA.
Some like it that way, some don't.
Easy to tell who's who in that regard.

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...


Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies
to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too.
And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to
the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or
miss.
Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's
house, in a less "expensive" area.
A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than
Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass.
But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive
pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA.
Some like it that way, some don't.
Easy to tell who's who in that regard.


Yes, we should all be so proud of Apple:

"So who's the biggest wage stiffer? Apple is by far the worst in rewarding profitability. But
Walmart underpays the most people, and McDonald's pays the lowest wages. For those of us who
subsidize these companies with tax dollars for their employees' food stamps and Medicaid, it doesn't
matter who's worse. We're all getting stiffed. "

There must be some reason you progressive mouthy liberals like Apple so much. What is it?

http://www.alternet.org/labor/apple-...t-wage-stiffer

[Note: All the cites you could desire are in the article.]

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:20 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low

income people, you support it.
..

All YOU do is sit in your sweaty basement chair and post Clip n Paste ****, Krause.

**** YOU ****

On 11/19/13, 6:26 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:59:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

Bull****, it is closer to $13


Documentation? Remember, WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications and, if memory serves, has
been cited and fined more than once for significant wage-hour law
violations.

What percentage of WalMart store workers get health insurance, and what
sort of health insurance is that?

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On 11/19/13, 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...


Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies
to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too.
And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to
the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or
miss.
Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's
house, in a less "expensive" area.
A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than
Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass.
But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive
pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA.
Some like it that way, some don't.
Easy to tell who's who in that regard.


So don't work for Walmart. They don't put a gun to your head and make
you work there.
If they couldn't get people to work for what they pay, they would pay
more or simply close the store.


Ahh, a fan of the climb to the bottom. Well, of course.

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On 11/19/13, 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:31:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Bull****, it is closer to $13


Documentation?

I was wrong, that is the average of all employees.


I've seen several reliable cites that indicate the average full time
WalMart store employee is making about $8.81 an hour.

A couple of years ago, the manager at that time of my local Apple Store
tried to recruit me for his weekend sales staff, to help the "geezer
crowd" buy and use Apple products, especially laptop and desktop computers.

I don't recall exactly what he was willing to pay, but I do recall at
the time...this was three years ago...that the pay range of "Apple
Genius" employees ranged from $20 to $30 an hour or more in our area,
and more in bigger markets. These are not the sales clerk jobs, which
paid a little less back then. Don't know what the rates are these days.
I really didn't want to give up my weekend days, though, but it might
have been a hoot.

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On 11/19/13, 7:34 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:14:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:31:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Bull****, it is closer to $13


Documentation?

I was wrong, that is the average of all employees.


I've seen several reliable cites that indicate the average full time
WalMart store employee is making about $8.81 an hour.

A couple of years ago, the manager at that time of my local Apple Store
tried to recruit me for his weekend sales staff, to help the "geezer
crowd" buy and use Apple products, especially laptop and desktop computers.

I don't recall exactly what he was willing to pay, but I do recall at
the time...this was three years ago...that the pay range of "Apple
Genius" employees ranged from $20 to $30 an hour or more in our area,
and more in bigger markets. These are not the sales clerk jobs, which
paid a little less back then. Don't know what the rates are these days.
I really didn't want to give up my weekend days, though, but it might
have been a hoot.

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Appl...ries-E1138.htm


Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store.
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