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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/8/2013 4:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. I wonder if Loogie is feeling the burden that has been thrust upon him by O'Bama |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
In article 1845149103405719249.304688bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. Die from what? |
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1845149103405719249.304688bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. Die from what? Drugs and exposure. Next. |
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