On 11/1/13, 9:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/1/13, 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/1/2013 8:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/1/13, 8:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Ecclesiastes 10:2

(here's a link for the verse) :-)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+10%3A2


Yet another Old Testament passage trashed by modernist revisions.
Correctly translated:

A wise man’s heart leads him rightly,
but a fool’s heart leads him astray;


The phrase has nothing to do with left or right.

Gotta love the hypocrisy of "religious Republicans." Many support
the right to carry assault weapons and are pro-war, and ignore the fact
that the New Testament depicts their saviour as a liberal who was
against capitalism and violence.

Ahh, religion.




Figured you would get a rise out of that one. Guess you didn't notice
the smiley face.

Of course I did. But I feel compelled to stomp on revisionist
modernizations of ancient texts. I got into a hell of a fight one
semester with a classics professor over a translation of the Iliad he
wanted to use for class discussion. It was a "modernized" version that
totally ignored Homer's use of dactylic hexameter. This was no
introductory course on the classics, so there should have been no need
for Homer's poetry to be simplified and stupefied into "modern" English
prose. Naturally, I lost the argument, so I wrote my final paper in
Homer's meter.





Hope you understand but my eyes just glazed over.

I've read it of course, by dictate in school but never engaged in any
discussion because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
Still don't.

But! I *do* know the ionization potential required for argon at a
pressure of four millitorr. Good thing because it helped pay the bills.



Argon? Millitorr? Sounds like a modern version of Jason and the Argonauts!

The IIiad is the story of the sacking of Troy. There's much in it about
"divine intervention," which I suppose would qualify it as a religious
text.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/1/13, 9:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/1/2013 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/1/13, 8:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/1/2013 8:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Gotta love the hypocrisy of "religious Republicans." Many support
the right to carry assault weapons and are pro-war, and ignore the fact
that the New Testament depicts their savior as a liberal who was
against capitalism and violence.

Ahh, religion.




Thus you are "agnostic"?

With exception of a few Bible thumping extremist sects, modern thinking
regarding religion, even among the faithful, is not like it was in the
14th and 15th centuries.



I'm agnostic because I have little use for superstition beyond the tooth
fairy, the easter bunny, and santa claus.

I've read and seen news videos of modern christians spewing hatred at
those who believe differently. Muslims do it too, of course. What is
modern thinking among the faithful, that superstition still has a place
in rationality?

I can accept "on faith" that among the zillions of planets out there,
there are some providing homes to civilizations of beings who are as
intelligent or far more intelligent than we are. The numbers of planets
favor such a belief. I can't prove it, but I can accept it.

I can't think of one proof that proves the existence of a supreme being.







Where did the zillions of planets come from?

Just a comment. I've swung around to believing in the theories of
either spontaneous creation due to physics or the concept that relative
to our primitive understanding of time, the universe has simply always
existed.

Determining the answer is above my pay grade.


I can accept the "event" of The Big Bang as the progenitor of the
universe, which incorporates your spontaneous creation thought. Beyond
that, I don't know, and so far as I know, neither does anyone else with
any certainty. That doesn't mean I think a "creator" was involved.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

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On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/1/13, 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/1/2013 8:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/1/13, 8:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Ecclesiastes 10:2

(here's a link for the verse) :-)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+10%3A2


Yet another Old Testament passage trashed by modernist revisions.
Correctly translated:

A wise man?s heart leads him rightly,
but a fool?s heart leads him astray;


The phrase has nothing to do with left or right.

Gotta love the hypocrisy of "religious Republicans." Many support
the right to carry assault weapons and are pro-war, and ignore the fact
that the New Testament depicts their saviour as a liberal who was
against capitalism and violence.

Ahh, religion.




Figured you would get a rise out of that one. Guess you didn't notice
the smiley face.

Of course I did. But I feel compelled to stomp on revisionist
modernizations of ancient texts. I got into a hell of a fight one
semester with a classics professor over a translation of the Iliad he
wanted to use for class discussion. It was a "modernized" version that
totally ignored Homer's use of dactylic hexameter. This was no
introductory course on the classics, so there should have been no need
for Homer's poetry to be simplified and stupefied into "modern" English
prose. Naturally, I lost the argument, so I wrote my final paper in
Homer's meter.





Hope you understand but my eyes just glazed over.

I've read it of course, by dictate in school but never engaged in any
discussion because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
Still don't.

But! I *do* know the ionization potential required for argon at a
pressure of four millitorr. Good thing because it helped pay the bills.

Exactly!