In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk

On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

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In article om,
says...

On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

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It's not a point of who can do better, it's a point of Scotty bragging
that he can take a huge undertaking like the healthcare website and in a
week and $10k have it fully functional. If you look at their
"professional" page, it looks like it's one of those done from a
template website!

Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
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These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.

On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
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These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.


Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we
did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages
"talk" to each other...

Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a
wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand
that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many
different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went
to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local
college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with
different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it
was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken
a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a
million or two.... probably less...

You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The
fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance...

In article , says...

On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
http://www.avast.com

These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.


Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we
did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages
"talk" to each other...

Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a
wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand
that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many
different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went
to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local
college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with
different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it
was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken
a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a
million or two.... probably less...

You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The
fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance...

That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done
all of the time, all over the world!

On 10/28/2013 1:09 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
http://www.avast.com

These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.


Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we
did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages
"talk" to each other...

Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a
wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand
that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many
different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went
to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local
college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with
different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it
was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken
a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a
million or two.... probably less...

You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The
fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance...

That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done
all of the time, all over the world!


Yes, WE AGREE!!! This is done "all of the time, all over the world" by
commercial interests who check and develop the team based on need and
capability, not cronyism like this project...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.
http://www.avast.com

These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.


Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we
did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages
"talk" to each other...

Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a
wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand
that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many
different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went
to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local
college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with
different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it
was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken
a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a
million or two.... probably less...

You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The
fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance...

That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done
all of the time, all over the world!

Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software.
Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the
program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you
now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and
get any throughput.

Charlemagne wrote:
On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Hank© wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Let?s see?

$350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that
isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds.
But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t
work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word.

HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is
nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider
most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be
compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write
the site as a senior project in a couple semesters....

snerk



If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior
high school designed and programmed them.

How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high
school designer/programmer?

---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.
http://www.avast.com

These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come
outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring.


Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we
did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages
"talk" to each other...

Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a
wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that
most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different
companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the
paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for
**** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different
operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case
of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and
written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or
two.... probably less...

You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The
fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance...

Just lease the software from a company that has already written and
debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a
million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and
time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written
as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those
are harder to test.