In article , says...

On 10/9/13 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/9/13 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

No official declaration yet since he is also running for re-election
as New Jersey's governor, but in his classic, no BS style he
acknowledged to his Democratic opponent that he can walk and chew
gum
at the same time if it comes to running for president while
governor.

Guy is unique. At another point in their debate the Democratic
challenger ( State Senator Barbara Buono) said that she will
"never,
never balance the state budget on the backs of the middle class".
Christie responded with, "I know you will never balance the state
budget ..... I had to do it for you".

Christie leads in the governor's race polling 64 percent to Bouno's
30 percent.

It will be interesting if he runs in 2016. Given the mood of the
country right now he could give Hillary a serious challenge and he
has
already distanced himself from the Tea Party crowd. In fact, he
never embraced them period. I'd love to see Christie taking on
Cruz
in primary debates. He'd probably tell Cruz to shove it where the
sun doesn't shine.

He seems genuine, and I like the fact that he can see both sides of
the
fence on important issues.

--------------------------

Ya, I think baring unforeseen circumstances he plans to run. He
quietly had gastric lap band surgery several months ago and has lost
some of his gigantic bulk already. Still has a long ways to go, but
in a couple of years he'll look like a new man.

He could be exactly what the Dr. ordered to fix the broken system of
government that we have. He'll brush off Ted Cruz and the Tea Party
like a fly on his lapel and certainly has demonstrated a no nonsense
style of leadership with a willingness to deal with those on the other
side of the aisle.

The question is Hillary. If someone like Cruz gets the nomination it
will be a bloodbath of negative campaigning at personal levels from
both sides .... exactly what we *don't* need any more of. Cruz
will bring out every speck of dirt he can find on her and she'll
reciprocate. As gruff and candid as he is, I think Christie could
maintain some level of respect for her, recognizing that if he wins,
he'll have to work with members of her party.

I hope he runs.

I'd love to get someone in office that can fix this idiotic notion that
we have to be either very far left or very far right and no one can be
middle ground. That's gotten us in a LOT of trouble the past 12 years



Who in significant positions in the federal government is "very far left"?

in reference to U.S. politics, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. AND those
who won't ever consider working with the other side.


I wouldn't call either of them "very far left."

I didn't suppose YOU would.

On 10/9/2013 8:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/9/13 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

No official declaration yet since he is also running for re-election
as New Jersey's governor, but in his classic, no BS style he
acknowledged to his Democratic opponent that he can walk and chew
gum
at the same time if it comes to running for president while
governor.

Guy is unique. At another point in their debate the Democratic
challenger ( State Senator Barbara Buono) said that she will
"never,
never balance the state budget on the backs of the middle class".
Christie responded with, "I know you will never balance the state
budget ..... I had to do it for you".

Christie leads in the governor's race polling 64 percent to Bouno's
30 percent.

It will be interesting if he runs in 2016. Given the mood of the
country right now he could give Hillary a serious challenge and he
has
already distanced himself from the Tea Party crowd. In fact, he
never embraced them period. I'd love to see Christie taking on
Cruz
in primary debates. He'd probably tell Cruz to shove it where the
sun doesn't shine.

He seems genuine, and I like the fact that he can see both sides of
the
fence on important issues.

--------------------------

Ya, I think baring unforeseen circumstances he plans to run. He
quietly had gastric lap band surgery several months ago and has lost
some of his gigantic bulk already. Still has a long ways to go, but
in a couple of years he'll look like a new man.

He could be exactly what the Dr. ordered to fix the broken system of
government that we have. He'll brush off Ted Cruz and the Tea Party
like a fly on his lapel and certainly has demonstrated a no nonsense
style of leadership with a willingness to deal with those on the other
side of the aisle.

The question is Hillary. If someone like Cruz gets the nomination it
will be a bloodbath of negative campaigning at personal levels from
both sides .... exactly what we *don't* need any more of. Cruz
will bring out every speck of dirt he can find on her and she'll
reciprocate. As gruff and candid as he is, I think Christie could
maintain some level of respect for her, recognizing that if he wins,
he'll have to work with members of her party.

I hope he runs.

I'd love to get someone in office that can fix this idiotic notion that
we have to be either very far left or very far right and no one can be
middle ground. That's gotten us in a LOT of trouble the past 12 years



Who in significant positions in the federal government is "very far left"?

These guys
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4066253.html

On 10/9/13 12:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 8:03 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I hope he runs.


I don't see Christie breaking through the Iron Curtain of the Teabaggin'
Terrorists to get the nomination.

---------------------------

The country is tiring quickly of the Tea Party and people like Ted
Cruz. Nobody expects perfection. They just want the damn government to
work.



Ah, but you are a moderate-conservative voter-citizen. People like you
are not in charge of the GOP or its apparatus...the tea baggers are.
Christie isn't likely to get through the primary process. If you'll
recall the last man standing before Romney got the nod was Rick
Santorum. The party has moved further to the right. At the national
level, right-wing purity is more important than the ability to win the
presidency.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On 10/9/13 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

No official declaration yet since he is also running for
re-election
as New Jersey's governor, but in his classic, no BS style he
acknowledged to his Democratic opponent that he can walk and
chew
gum
at the same time if it comes to running for president while
governor.

Guy is unique. At another point in their debate the Democratic
challenger ( State Senator Barbara Buono) said that she will
"never,
never balance the state budget on the backs of the middle
class".
Christie responded with, "I know you will never balance the
state
budget ..... I had to do it for you".

Christie leads in the governor's race polling 64 percent to
Bouno's
30 percent.

It will be interesting if he runs in 2016. Given the mood of
the
country right now he could give Hillary a serious challenge and
he
has
already distanced himself from the Tea Party crowd. In fact,
he
never embraced them period. I'd love to see Christie taking
on
Cruz
in primary debates. He'd probably tell Cruz to shove it where
the
sun doesn't shine.

He seems genuine, and I like the fact that he can see both sides
of
the
fence on important issues.

--------------------------

Ya, I think baring unforeseen circumstances he plans to run.
He
quietly had gastric lap band surgery several months ago and has
lost
some of his gigantic bulk already. Still has a long ways to go,
but
in a couple of years he'll look like a new man.

He could be exactly what the Dr. ordered to fix the broken system
of
government that we have. He'll brush off Ted Cruz and the Tea
Party
like a fly on his lapel and certainly has demonstrated a no
nonsense
style of leadership with a willingness to deal with those on the
other
side of the aisle.

The question is Hillary. If someone like Cruz gets the
nomination it
will be a bloodbath of negative campaigning at personal levels
from
both sides .... exactly what we *don't* need any more of.
Cruz
will bring out every speck of dirt he can find on her and she'll
reciprocate. As gruff and candid as he is, I think Christie
could
maintain some level of respect for her, recognizing that if he
wins,
he'll have to work with members of her party.

I hope he runs.

I'd love to get someone in office that can fix this idiotic notion
that
we have to be either very far left or very far right and no one
can be
middle ground. That's gotten us in a LOT of trouble the past 12
years



Who in significant positions in the federal government is "very far
left"?

in reference to U.S. politics, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. AND
those
who won't ever consider working with the other side.


I wouldn't call either of them "very far left."

-----------------------

Bernie Sanders

On 10/9/13 1:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/9/13 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

No official declaration yet since he is also running for re-election
as New Jersey's governor, but in his classic, no BS style he
acknowledged to his Democratic opponent that he can walk and chew
gum
at the same time if it comes to running for president while
governor.

Guy is unique. At another point in their debate the Democratic
challenger ( State Senator Barbara Buono) said that she will
"never,
never balance the state budget on the backs of the middle class".
Christie responded with, "I know you will never balance the state
budget ..... I had to do it for you".

Christie leads in the governor's race polling 64 percent to Bouno's
30 percent.

It will be interesting if he runs in 2016. Given the mood of the
country right now he could give Hillary a serious challenge and he
has
already distanced himself from the Tea Party crowd. In fact, he
never embraced them period. I'd love to see Christie taking on
Cruz
in primary debates. He'd probably tell Cruz to shove it where the
sun doesn't shine.

He seems genuine, and I like the fact that he can see both sides of
the
fence on important issues.

--------------------------

Ya, I think baring unforeseen circumstances he plans to run. He
quietly had gastric lap band surgery several months ago and has lost
some of his gigantic bulk already. Still has a long ways to go, but
in a couple of years he'll look like a new man.

He could be exactly what the Dr. ordered to fix the broken system of
government that we have. He'll brush off Ted Cruz and the Tea Party
like a fly on his lapel and certainly has demonstrated a no nonsense
style of leadership with a willingness to deal with those on the other
side of the aisle.

The question is Hillary. If someone like Cruz gets the nomination it
will be a bloodbath of negative campaigning at personal levels from
both sides .... exactly what we *don't* need any more of. Cruz
will bring out every speck of dirt he can find on her and she'll
reciprocate. As gruff and candid as he is, I think Christie could
maintain some level of respect for her, recognizing that if he wins,
he'll have to work with members of her party.

I hope he runs.

I'd love to get someone in office that can fix this idiotic notion that
we have to be either very far left or very far right and no one can be
middle ground. That's gotten us in a LOT of trouble the past 12 years



Who in significant positions in the federal government is "very far
left"?

in reference to U.S. politics, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. AND those
who won't ever consider working with the other side.


I wouldn't call either of them "very far left."

-----------------------

Bernie Sanders



Bernie is a socialist but he's really more like the more typical
Democratic lefties I worked with in the 1970's and 1980's, and they
weren't socialists.

I'm on an NGO board of directors with two members of the Democratic
Socialists. Have known them for nearly 30 years. Hardly radicals, their
beliefs aren't much different from those of the Scandinavian socialists.

I love the attempts of the far right to label us as "progressives."
Absolutely, I'm a progressive. I believe in progress in government and
society. To be otherwise is to be a regressive. I have no interest in
seeing this country moving backwards to the 19th Century.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/9/13 1:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/9/13 8:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

No official declaration yet since he is also running for
re-election
as New Jersey's governor, but in his classic, no BS style he
acknowledged to his Democratic opponent that he can walk and chew
gum
at the same time if it comes to running for president while
governor.

Guy is unique. At another point in their debate the Democratic
challenger ( State Senator Barbara Buono) said that she will
"never,
never balance the state budget on the backs of the middle class".
Christie responded with, "I know you will never balance the state
budget ..... I had to do it for you".

Christie leads in the governor's race polling 64 percent to
Bouno's
30 percent.

It will be interesting if he runs in 2016. Given the mood of the
country right now he could give Hillary a serious challenge and he
has
already distanced himself from the Tea Party crowd. In fact, he
never embraced them period. I'd love to see Christie taking on
Cruz
in primary debates. He'd probably tell Cruz to shove it where the
sun doesn't shine.

He seems genuine, and I like the fact that he can see both sides of
the
fence on important issues.

--------------------------

Ya, I think baring unforeseen circumstances he plans to run. He
quietly had gastric lap band surgery several months ago and has lost
some of his gigantic bulk already. Still has a long ways to go, but
in a couple of years he'll look like a new man.

He could be exactly what the Dr. ordered to fix the broken system of
government that we have. He'll brush off Ted Cruz and the Tea
Party
like a fly on his lapel and certainly has demonstrated a no nonsense
style of leadership with a willingness to deal with those on the
other
side of the aisle.

The question is Hillary. If someone like Cruz gets the
nomination it
will be a bloodbath of negative campaigning at personal levels from
both sides .... exactly what we *don't* need any more of. Cruz
will bring out every speck of dirt he can find on her and she'll
reciprocate. As gruff and candid as he is, I think Christie could
maintain some level of respect for her, recognizing that if he wins,
he'll have to work with members of her party.

I hope he runs.

I'd love to get someone in office that can fix this idiotic notion
that
we have to be either very far left or very far right and no one
can be
middle ground. That's gotten us in a LOT of trouble the past 12 years



Who in significant positions in the federal government is "very far
left"?

in reference to U.S. politics, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. AND those
who won't ever consider working with the other side.


I wouldn't call either of them "very far left."

-----------------------

Bernie Sanders



Bernie is a socialist but he's really more like the more typical
Democratic lefties I worked with in the 1970's and 1980's, and they
weren't socialists.

I'm on an NGO board of directors with two members of the Democratic
Socialists. Have known them for nearly 30 years. Hardly radicals,
their beliefs aren't much different from those of the Scandinavian
socialists.

I love the attempts of the far right to label us as "progressives."
Absolutely, I'm a progressive. I believe in progress in government and
society. To be otherwise is to be a regressive. I have no interest in
seeing this country moving backwards to the 19th Century.

Sure you are. You post here 24-7. You are retired and a deadbeat.

In article , "Mr. Luddite" says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 8:03 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I hope he runs.


I don't see Christie breaking through the Iron Curtain of the
Teabaggin'
Terrorists to get the nomination.

---------------------------

The country is tiring quickly of the Tea Party and people like Ted
Cruz. Nobody expects perfection. They just want the damn government
to work.

2014

In article ,
says...

In article , "Mr. Luddite" says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 10/9/13 8:03 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


I hope he runs.


I don't see Christie breaking through the Iron Curtain of the
Teabaggin'
Terrorists to get the nomination.

---------------------------

The country is tiring quickly of the Tea Party and people like Ted
Cruz. Nobody expects perfection. They just want the damn government
to work.

2014

Who?